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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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lancaIV

that_prophet,
yes it is believable and constructable,
but there is ever a relationship between mass,RPM and electrical output !
Internal BEMF,no-/load condition, and external BEMF from no-/load=consumer

Here a german inventor (RIP) description, low RPM generator = ultra high costs

giving this "high" values: 1US$/1Wp so 1000 US$/1KWp only for the generator
+ pulley + motor + starter battery source

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wattsup

@that_prophet

Sorry but this idea cannot work for one simple reason. Leverage.

The drive motor is turning a wide diameter wheel or pulley. The pulley is then belted to several generators via smaller wheels.

Here is the problem. Once any of those generators start to produce output, they will start to seize up because of normal generator
drag that is present when generators produce output. That's why a car alternator needs a 150 horsepower car to turn it while it is
charging the battery otherwise, just try to try the generator by hand as it outputs and you will quickly understand the forces
involved.

But the killer is this.  Let's say the generator is supplying output and because of this the generator is feeling a drag or stalling force
of only 1. Well because of Leverage, the force of 1 at the generator will be like a force of 10 on the drive motor simply because of the
wide diameter of the drive wheel. That's why in normal set-ups of this nature, the wheel diameter on the drive motor should never
be greater then the rotor diameter of the same drive motor.

You may want to look up Chas Campbell.

wattsup

lancaIV


Here is the problem. Once any of those generators start to produce output, they will start to seize up because of normal generator drag that is present when generators produce output. That's why a car alternator needs a 150 horsepower car to turn it while it is charging the battery otherwise, just try to try the generator by hand as it outputs and you will quickly understand the forces involved.

under rotating flywheel condition,wattsup ?


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Sorry,wattsup, but this idea can work for one simple reason. Leverage.


Leverage = anti-position to grave/heavy/dura ,leve=easy/light         Lever=anti-gravity device


It is not a game ,wattsup,it is to know and understand (360° view) the meaning(internal) from the classical language from the science : Latin 
motere,Motor generare/Generator transformare/transformer
configurare,creare,combinare,tangere,


flywheel up to the special flywheel device : Kata(the death) pult(~table/desk)

wattsup

Quote from: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 11:04:20 AM
Here is the problem. Once any of those generators start to produce output, they will start to seize up because of normal generator drag that is present when generators produce output. That's why a car alternator needs a 150 horsepower car to turn it while it is charging the battery otherwise, just try to try the generator by hand as it outputs and you will quickly understand the forces involved.

under rotating flywheel condition,wattsup ?


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Sorry,wattsup, but this idea can work for one simple reason. Leverage.


Leverage = anti-position to grave/heavy/dura ,leve=easy/light         Lever=anti-gravity device


It is not a game ,wattsup,it is to know and understand (360° view) the meaning(internal) from the classical language from the science : Latin 
motere,Motor generare/Generator transformare/transformer
configurare,creare,combinare,tangere,

@lancaIV

Sorry man but that is not true, flywheel or not, if the belt on the flywheel is on the circumference of the wheel, the leverage of the
small wheel will hit 10 times more against the greater wheel and it WILL stop turning. But try it and prove the contrary. Leverage
can be used for or can work against, it all depends on how you set up the ratios. In the shown ratios, the drive wheel will just stop
turning. And yes, it is not a game when you are spending real money and time to find out what everyone else has found out.
That's why I recommend looking at how Chas Campbell attacked the problem by working the wheel ratios to get his flywheel to a
more neutral location in the leverage exchange.

wattsup



lancaIV


you,as listener from a radio-show,call to the radio-station: what could happen ? Rueck-Koppelung ?!

Apollo,Rakete/rocket, how many "rockets in a rocket" ?
Jumbo 747(civil),B52(militar)/Space-Shuttle "hucke-pack" : Jumbo-Velocity/Space shuttle anti-/thrust


Cable-winding(? or -s 2,or 3 neutral or....)-end: magnet2electricity,electricity2magnet
a cable,electricity network,during a storm the connection destroyed,1 side active : slang,tsssss,moving kinetical

electro static
magneto static
kineto static


if it is not thrue: error ? lie ? new science :terra cum conditio incognita ? cum conditio incognito ?


                        EMKF: electromagnetokinetic force from the Plasma(-Gas)
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=gay-lussac+gesetz&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
         General Gas-Law ( Schroedinger : electricity = Electron-Gas,later Ion-Gas, today Plasma  )
                                     
pumping also called pulsation           to propulsion  MECH= 1 device : Function  M=Motor E=Engine C=Compressor H=Hydraulik

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if the belt on the flywheel is on the circumference of the wheel, the leverage of the[/size]small wheel will hit 10 times more against the greater wheel and it WILL stop turning.

Yes,but you never heared about "torque" ? The same in the two,three,... converting wheels ?


Physically you are only doing compress or expand the force parameters !