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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Enjoykin2017

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2016, 10:17:21 AM


    Actually this thing makes small kick into big kick. 8)
    There are lots of variation you can do with this thing but this is the real thing. ;)
    AND OF COURSE THERE IS DANGER HERE OKAY, BE CAREFUL!!  :o
    so try it first from small design ok.
    happy experimenting everyone. i hope and i believe you can get it. ;)

    The backfire of the 75% plus 25% coil is many times greater than the input AND it comes from the outside.
    Then that big energy can be fired into another transformer then start collecting in the secondary of that transformer.  :)

    NOW YOU TELL ME IF I'M NOT TELLING THE TRUTH!!! :)
    A matter of practice and experiment ok.  ;)
    Tesla says that just by holding the coil he can already know a lot of info in that coil.    8)
    is it needed to know if its bifi? ??? :o
    Tell me which is better.

    We are already experimenting since lot of years already and still i have to detailed it?, what? :D
    are we learning or what?!!!! >:(

    ok according to tekla bifi is 250,000 times better than the ordinary.
    am i going to repeat more?
    if you don't know how to say thanks then just say => :P
    more better at least i knew it.  :D


Hello Tito L. Oracion and all !!  :)

Does your exparimental setup similar like this Tesla schematic ?

If you have repeated Tesla experiment tell me how did you made Tesla Spark-Gap - magnetic or quenched type spark-gap or mechanical rotational type ?

Do you have implemented Tesla Rules for your experiments ?

The words: "Resonance in Resonance or Vibartion in Vibration" could worth for 2 kind of vibrations or resonances - Secondary ʎ/4 and Extra Secondary 3ʎ/4 with the same transition mode.

Good Luck
Enjoykin

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ps: Tesla Rules

1. Mass of Primary (copper weight) = Mass Secondary plus Extra Secondary (copper weight)
2. Primary vibration must be in harmony with secondary ʎ/4 vibration. (Extra Secondary will be automatic in harmony with Primary vibration.
3. Ground points (2 independent earth grounds) must be in 2 ʎ/4 or ʎ/2 distance for optimal power transfer.
4. Position and distance from primary coil of Spark-Gap is also very important. Spark-Gap could be in hot wire (HV side) or cold wire (Ground side) - which is not the same for correct working Tesla Mag Magnification Transformer.




Bob Smith

Check out the diagram at 29 seconds:
https://youtu.be/VqdcU9ULAlA?t=29
It's not the whole answer, but I think part of it.
Notice the cap in parallel with the secondary and antenna on the primary, going to a ground shared with the secondary.

Magluvin

Quote from: Enjoykin2017 on October 04, 2016, 09:51:01 AM
Hello Tito L. Oracion and all !!  :)

Does your exparimental setup similar like this Tesla schematic ?

If you have repeated Tesla experiment tell me how did you made Tesla Spark-Gap - magnetic or quenched type spark-gap or mechanical rotational type ?

Do you have implemented Tesla Rules for your experiments ?

The words: "Resonance in Resonance or Vibartion in Vibration" could worth for 2 kind of vibrations or resonances - Secondary ʎ/4 and Extra Secondary 3ʎ/4 with the same transition mode.

Good Luck
Enjoykin

........................
ps: Tesla Rules

1. Mass of Primary (copper weight) = Mass Secondary plus Extra Secondary (copper weight)
2. Primary vibration must be in harmony with secondary ʎ/4 vibration. (Extra Secondary will be automatic in harmony with Primary vibration.
3. Ground points (2 independent earth grounds) must be in 2 ʎ/4 or ʎ/2 distance for optimal power transfer.
4. Position and distance from primary coil of Spark-Gap is also very important. Spark-Gap could be in hot wire (HV side) or cold wire (Ground side) - which is not the same for correct working Tesla Mag Magnification Transformer.


That seems to be an odd place for the 'break', which I assume is mechanical.  Lets say that the left side is the transmitter and the right side is the receiver, could be the other way around due to each side is like a mirror image, which again seems strange to me, but if it is the transmitter, when the break happens to close, make connection, where does the cap to the far left dump to when that connection is made? Into what surely seems like a larger capacitance.  But maybe that looks bad only in the beginning when we fire it up. So would the break make connection to the larger cap just to keep it topped up over its peak positive resonant cycle?

It surely doesnt look like the break is discharging a cap to a coil in that circuit, of which would have reminded me of Tesla. So this looks like we get the resonance going in the primary and the larger cap, and then just have a mechanical/electronic switch timed to just top up the large cap, so it is not a cap discharge circuit, its more of a trickle input once running.

Thats my I didnt read it yet assumption. I like to try to get it by looking at it first.  I dunno why, I just do. Sometimes I do get it.

Mags


Enjoykin2017

Quote from: Magluvin on October 04, 2016, 11:56:51 PM
That seems to be an odd place for the 'break', which I assume is mechanical.  Lets say that the left side is the transmitter and the right side is the receiver, could be the other way around due to each side is like a mirror image, which again seems strange to me, but if it is the transmitter, when the break happens to close, make connection, where does the cap to the far left dump to when that connection is made? Into what surely seems like a larger capacitance.  But maybe that looks bad only in the beginning when we fire it up. So would the break make connection to the larger cap just to keep it topped up over its peak positive resonant cycle?

It surely doesnt look like the break is discharging a cap to a coil in that circuit, of which would have reminded me of Tesla. So this looks like we get the resonance going in the primary and the larger cap, and then just have a mechanical/electronic switch timed to just top up the large cap, so it is not a cap discharge circuit, its more of a trickle input once running.

Thats my I didnt read it yet assumption. I like to try to get it by looking at it first.  I dunno why, I just do. Sometimes I do get it.

Mags

Yes thanks for you comment Mags.  :)

It could be mechanical break kind of power switch but in that case we need to find correct position for Spark-Gap. Capacitor C is probably resonant capacitor from HV power transformer secondary. Bigger capacitor C1 should be main primary discharging cap. I think Spark Gap should be Magnetic type arc disrupter like Tesla had stated many times.

The picture is for preliminary idea how it looks like according to Tito L. Oracion's description and I have took from the Colorado Spring Notes book.

Mags if you plan to make experiment we could make further discussion aboutmany processes. I hope other memebers her will join our conversation.

Best Regards
Enjoykin

Magluvin

Quote from: Enjoykin2017 on October 05, 2016, 04:50:24 AM
Yes thanks for you comment Mags.  :)

It could be mechanical break kind of power switch but in that case we need to find correct position for Spark-Gap. Capacitor C is probably resonant capacitor from HV power transformer secondary. Bigger capacitor C1 should be main primary discharging cap. I think Spark Gap should be Magnetic type arc disrupter like Tesla had stated many times.

The picture is for preliminary idea how it looks like according to Tito L. Oracion's description and I have took from the Colorado Spring Notes book.

Mags if you plan to make experiment we could make further discussion aboutmany processes. I hope other memebers her will join our conversation.

Best Regards
Enjoykin

Ive just learned over time to mostly be able to see what happens in these circuits. So noticing the position of the break in the circuit made me look twice.

So in a way this design probably doesnt have heavy burning of contacts, if the timing of the 'make' is in sync with the resonance of the large cap and primary LC, of which that freq may be altered by the secondary with what looks to be an extra coil. Lets say for instance that when the large cap and the primary are in resonance and say it simply may have only 300v swinging back and forth, 300v+ to 300v-.  If we were to charge up the LC to the 300v point and take away the input all together, each resonant cycle will diminish in voltage. Lets say it drops 10v for each half cycle, possibly being conservative on that number, but its just an example.
So +300v to -290v to +280v to -270v and so on till the oscillations stop. And the drop wont be linear like that, but just getting to the part of what the break has to accomplish.

So the LC is at + 300v and the break opens, and the LC ringing swings to -290v and then back up to +280 and the break closes again and only has to replenish the value of the voltage drop of 300v to 280v. Its only a 'Possible', for this hypothetical example, 20v difference that has to be replaced for each cycle loss. So this is a variant of a circuit that would have abrupt discharge into a coil from a cap, like the wind up tapper machine that made the building shake, where this circuit helps just maintain a particular level of resonant operation. Say the tapper could make the building to rumble dramatically, well then this circuit could help it just maintain a lower oscillation, or like once we got the building into a lesser oscillation and didnt want to go any further, then we could reduce the output of the tapper to only emit just enough to maintain that particular oscillation, like what this circuit looks like its intended to do.


Mags