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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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lancaIV

how is the energy gain/lost result in a car ignition system and how is a car ignition system built over the time to the actual standart ?


https://www.hk-auto.de/zuendsy.html

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zündspule

Magluvin

Quote from: lancaIV on October 06, 2016, 01:18:05 PM
how is the energy gain/lost result in a car ignition system and how is a car ignition system built over the time to the actual standart ?


https://www.hk-auto.de/zuendsy.html

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zündspule

There was a time at my work where they had a box of car ignition coils they wanted me to test.

So I set up a 12v battery with a momentary switch in series with the + and - terminals of the ign coil. Then I used a spark plug wire and a spark plug with its threaded base connected to the - terminal of the coil. So we push the switch to build a field in the coil primary then we release the switch to let the field collapse induce the secondary which is wound to produce about 15kv to 25kv. Some aftermarket coils can produce up to 50kv out to the spark plug. But I was getting virtually no spark or just a weak static looking spark.

So I had an idea that there is something wrong in the circuit. I looked up some images of points circuits and found a clear example that included a capacitor/condenser and I added that cap to the circuit. Still weak spark. So I didnt think about the cap as necessary for a bit. Then I looked at the circuit again and noticed the cap is not in a place to either protect the points contacts, nor was it in place that it would interact with the coil when the switch was open. So I put the cap across the switch and BANG. The sparks were burning white. They seem to be more than just a small static pip. It looks and sounds like there is multiple strong sparks in succession, like the same as we can detect how a tone can be heard over time, a short pip vs maybe a couple milliseconds, what ever it may be.  I have not gotten back to that to measure the apparent oscillation between the cap and the primary. But I would bet some mula that there is a longer spark time with the cap due to resonant oscillation vs without the cap.  And again, the power level of the spark is much greater than without the cap..(just now measured one at .2uf dont have a coil here to measure its ohms and inductance.

The other thing you notice with this circuit is the oscillation goes through the battery also. I wonder what effect that has on the battery. Modern systems do not allow field collapse current spikes and the like of relays, motors, etc. to re enter the power system of the vehicles.  Some people may add some component to their vehicle that uses a switch to operate a relay. If there is not a snubber diode across the relay coil, you will hear pops in the audio system of the vehicle.

Ill have to dig up that coil I have. Did some experiments on YT using a Sidac to act as a 220v spark gap to connect the cap being charged via avramenko plug. Now I want to set it up to see if the sidac allowed oscillations Maybe a cap across the sidac? This is more like disruptive discharge but Im wondering if the sidac disconnects the cap once it reaches a low voltage state.  But mind you, the cap discharge at 220v is a vary small capacitance. This was 5yrs ago. looking over my vids brings up new ideas to test things I wasnt thinking of then.

This is part 4 of 5 vids on this subject and the use of the Avramenko plug....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EP8M4YcGio

Mags



 

a.king21

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2016, 10:40:13 PM

The 25%+75% which is equal to 100% plus the unlimited inrush from the outside is again fired into another transformer.


The steven marks transfo is better because we can at least put 3 parallel inputs and we can put lots of secondaries in that design.


i think that's all enough for everyone to discover it. :)


be careful once again cause I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS AND SHOCK. :D :) :o


IT CAN EASILY KILL YOU OK!!! :o


GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.

a.king21

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2016, 02:41:10 AM

Yes, They have to say that so that no more will go in deep to that technology. ;)


in order for the transformer to melt or become hot, it should under capacitated! ok? ;) 8)
you try to plug a 120 volts in a 220 volts outlet and you will know what i mean. :D


Now, if you don't want to use the transfo, you just try to use the "I" type, you put the input in the middle and put secondaries in the bottom at the middle and top, imagine you could put three collectors in one "I" type, and you can have many "I" type as you wish!!! 8) :o ;) :)


of course it is still in the design why it melts ok!.


And Well, heating is just normal and fire is just normal. :D 


Believe me for once, THERE IS ALWAYS A BETTER WAY SOLUTION FOR EVERY PROBLEMA. 8) 
DON'T STUCK IN IT OK! ;)

lancaIV