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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Dave45


Dave45

If someone can offer a rational explanation in layman's terms as to what makes a coil ring i would like to hear it.


Magluvin

Quote from: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 06:35:21 AM
Sorry the components are not to spec.


In your opinion does the pos and neg biased fields make sense, would it account for the coil ring.

Not sure what you are getting at.  In the simple circuit all seems to be operating DC and or pulsed DC, and a freewheeling DC. Not sure where an AC oscillation would occur.  In the sim, Falstad seems to have instilled some capacitance in the inductor programing as there are times that an inductor can be seen oscillating at very high freq when there is no where for the collapse currents to go. In sim its sorta an ideal environment when it comes to a switch turning on and off where there is no spark across the switch contacts when it opens, so that gives the collapse currents in certain circuit configs no where to go.

I had some tough arguments with Zeropoint132 years ago on diodes. He had shown me 2 circuits with bridged rectifiers, on showing the input going pos swing and the other circuit with the input going neg swing. He seemed to believe that one circuit was a bridge rectifier and the other not, but they were both exactly the same, except for showing one as a pos swing input and the other a neg input swing.

Id play with the sim and the code I gave.  When the switch opens, the inductor in series with the load collapses, the diode leg inductor blocks current flow, from what I see, pretty much completely. So the charge built in the load inductor ends up being wasted and just disipates. Worked a lot with this stuff back in the day in this thread.

Mags


SkyWatcher123

Hi dave, the magnetic pulse in the wire causes a mechanical movement of the wire and the frequency is based on the material and how secure it is from movement.
Can sound be caused by a wire with a magnetic pulse, even if no detectable movement of wire is present, probably.
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Bob Smith

Quote from: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 12:01:18 PM
If someone can offer a rational explanation in layman's terms as to what makes a coil ring i would like to hear it.
Dave,
Thanks for your posts as of late. I have come to the same basic understanding of this setup, and recall that you were proposing this a few years ago. I just couldn't grasp it at the time.
I don't really know the answer to your question with absolute certainty, but I'll take a stab...


We normally see the ringing effect with an L-C setup.
If we look to Don Smith's work, he says that the dielectric provides the energy that exits a pulsed capacitor.
If we have a coil (without a cap) ringing, I'm assuming that this may be possible because of the coil's own capacitance, and if this is the case, I'd borrow DS's reasoning and say that the dielectric or ambient is providing the second half of the coil's ring.
From this perspective, a coil (like a capacitor) can be understood as an open system, and really, there are really no closed systems, though efforts are made to keep the ambient from interacting with circuits.


What intrigues me about this whole setup is the role that Lenz' law plays, responding to the positive kick - making it possible to have the push-pull kind of effect that we see in the boost-buck circuits you've been posting.
Bob