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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Cadman

Erfinder, thanks for responding. I do hope there is more to it than the obvious.

Well if I have the basic idea worked out then I think this would make a good first Tesla experiment.

The standard explanation of resonant rise, as I understand it, is 'incrementally storing more and more energy from the power supply' but that does not take into consideration contributions from other things like the inductive discharge or the secondary of the oscillation transformer and the cap connected to it for example. At least that is my thinking at the moment. If I build this properly I'll bet I see a few surprises and learn some things.

I think I can rig up a rotary switch, high inductance, and transformers fairly easily, caps will have to be ordered though. Probably use a 12VDC battery for the supply, maybe at a half amp.

Do you have a suggestion as to the oscillation frequency to shoot for in the L M circuit, or should I just try to follow Tesla's lead?

Regards

penno64


Magluvin


Cadman

Quote from: Erfinder on May 19, 2017, 03:21:45 PM

First, the cap is charged (by the supply) when the controller is open.  The current charging the capacitor moves through a circuit which includes the motor windings, and primary of the transformer......Doh!  The cap discharge (at switch closure) is NOT the only current exciting the transformer!!!!!


If the above didn't get your attention.....while "charging" the capacitor forms a series LC with the primary of the transformer....while "discharging" the capacitor forms a parallel LC with the primary of the transformer....holy shit...what does it mean....(certainly not what you're thinking.....) My original post was in Jan 2016... five months later.....folk still parroting the text, no real thought, just a bunch of copying and pasting.... pisses me off... I told you people, it's not about the obvious, or your goddamn measurements and or simulations!  What you want demands a fundamental change in perspective, begins with opening your damn eyes and seeing what's right fucking there!


The cap charging current causes the rotor to spin, excites the primary, and induces current in the secondary of the transformer!  Once the cap fills, current stops....pwm without the pwm..... This is a what the fuck moment.....why, you are being informed of that which "CAN", that which is taking place prior to switch closure, and this using what Tesla shows you.  Are there alternatives to what he's shown....yep...have I provided a demo....yep.....was anyone paying attention....probably not....can I blame you....wouldn't matter if I did.....


Regards

With an 8 pole controller switch with 4 open and 4 closed segments of 45 degrees each, if the small cap is charged in, say 20 degrees of the motor rotation while the circuit controller is open, then during the remaining 25 degrees the motor is a generator.

As for the series charging and parallel discharging, the only thing I can relate to that at this moment is voltage is increased in a series LC and amperage is increased in a parallel LC, or so I have read.

There are several different frequencies traveling through the transformer primary. What was that Tesla said, something about constructing to the Law of Harmonics? You know, where two frequencies can produce a third frequency?

Is this relevant to what you are getting at? Probably not.

Regards

Cadman

Thanks Erfinder. That was actually helpful to me. Yeah I know, you don't care, but thanks just the same.
I'm just trying to understand the best I can before I attempt to build this.

By the way, when you joined in on this thread http://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/ back in 2008 and tried to get people to build a layman's verification of the ozone patent did you already understand everything you have been trying to open our eyes to on this thread?

Just curious is all.

Regards