ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Magluvin]

@Magluvin

In my Reply #8215 I mention it - high inductance coil (HIC).

Look, take a 12vdc battery and two wires of three feet long. Put one wire end on each of the battery terminals leaving the two other ends open. Put your volt meter on those two open ends. What do you see? If the positive of the meter is on the positive of the battery, you will see +12vdc. If the positive of the meter is on the negative of the battery you will see -12vdc. So whatever information was at the battery terminals is now at the end of each of those wires. Both the positive and the negative potential of the battery had to advance into the wires for your meter to read that. Both potentials advance in the circuit. I covered that a few posts ago.

Now connect the two wires together. Where do you think the wires will blow, at the ends or in the center where they meet? Well 9 times out of ten they will blow in the center. So why should it blow in the center if the battery is supposed to work from as you say negative to positive and as others say positive to negative? What is so different about the current flow as you say before it arrives at the wire center, at the wire center and after it leaves the wire center? There is no difference because this is impossible? If the electricity in the battery was flowing in a circle back to source, then the wire should always blow at the point where the current goes back into the battery but it does not. That is because both polarities exit the battery.

Im late for work so i can only make a short reply and will address the rest later.

HIC  ok  I just quote tesla from the patent as large inductance when I talk about the pat.

On the where does the wire blow and why, I cant say I agree with you on that. If we light an incandescent bulb using a variable say dc input and we crank it down till the wire is just a low glow, the middle of the filament is most always brighter than the parts of the filament ends. For the most part it is because the larger posts on each end of the filament conduct a lot of heat away from those ends of the filament. What your conveying is if we broke open a heating element from an oven and removed the coils of filament and string it up, it would be pretty darn long is we stretched out the springy filament,that when we apply the input, there will be more heat from the middle area of the length due to an electrical cause? I would say that the middle would be between the 2 lengths of the ends, and the middle could be hotter than the rest due to being in an area that has just as much heat to the left and the right of the middle. And the ends would only have half of that local ambient heat around them. We could lay it out in a straight line on the shop floor and then add another perpendicular to the first one and they cross in the middle. Then we could take 2 more and cross in the middle of the first 2, one at 315geg and the other crossing at 45deg. So it looks like a big 8 pointed star of 4 heater coils all crossing in the middle.
And then we fire them all up. Apply more power till they blow.
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1  Where would it blow and why?
2  If it blows in the middle, why is it so hard to believe that it is where the most heat is combined in 1 area because the heat of the whole surrounds the middle more than on the ends?

Having the 4 filaments crossing is a firmer example of what is happening in just 1 wire or filament as you described it. With 4 crossing we have magnified my point of view to be more relevant. There will be more heat in the middle crossing than what can be measured toward the ends of the wires or filaments. But the same will apply with just 1 length of wire just in a lesser amount, yet it still is accountable to to the same reasoning.  Now this wire better be darn near perfectly made.  If there is one imperfection in a portion of the wire that is off of center, then that area will heat more due to the resistance of that imperfection and it should blow there instead of the middle. The weakest point is what it is. Weak.

I have to disagree with you that it blows in the middle because of electrical properties that you describe.

Mags

[forest]

That interesting discussion is ....nothing. The only real Energy amplification is what Tito said to us. 
I don't believe it could "cure the world" if you knew it. Even Tesla was sure: it's only  a peanut.Sure, can fulfill needs of ordinary house but it's not possible to scale up , at least not easily.... Look how big was Kapanadze 100kW installation.

[Magluvin]

I am going to pretend that Wattsup isn't here....nothing he has presented thus far will get you anywhere.... don't take my word for it, ask him to demonstrate his understanding of the patent...  I can not only demonstrate the patent as presented, I can demonstrate it as it was meant to be, I already have....while you were sleeping.... 


I can appreciate the benefit of exchanging with one of so many words, and will stand on the sideline and watch the discussion which takes place between the two of you lead to nowhere....  I will interject my two cent when I feel it necessary. 




So that its clear....I do not agree with this.....



UH....WTF?!?


When the switch closes, it, the switch, places the motor across the supply, simultaneously, it places the cap across the primary....  focus..... we are looking at two circuits during the instance of switch closure, the motor and supply representing one circuit, and the cap and primary representing the other, the switch (controller) being common to both.


The motor and primary become a "functioning series circuit" when the switch opens, when the now empty capacitor is allowed to complete the circuit to the supply through the series connected primary and motor. 


I have tried to paint the significance of this picture time and time again, but am constantly opposed by those whom I am positive have yet to truly immerse, and lose themselves (literally) within this subject.


When the switch opens allowing the cap to charge to the supply potential, the current, manifesting out of opposition to change in voltage, moves through the serial connected motor and primary, causing the motor to rotate, and exciting the primary.  The fact that both motor and primary are excited during the cap charging cycle is overlooked by all!  Another overlooked aspect, the cap charging current is not motivated entirely by the supply potential, it is motivated by the induced potential generated by the collapsing field of the coil. This "mixing" of energies, (for lack of a more descriptive way of formulating it)  how and when it is to be accomplished, and through which circuit(s) it is to propagate through is one of the primary lessons taught by this patent. 


I hope you read this and it clicks...I hope you read this and realize how mistaken you are in thinking that you can perform the tasks which need to be performed without the motor....


Regards

Hmm. I have to go back and look.  I thought your conversation the other day with (I have to go back and see) was that yes we could replace the motor with an inductor and pull off the switching another way. If I was wrong then I was wrong..  have to git for a couple hours and Ill go back and see what I misread or misunderstood.

Also Ill have to closely reread your post here in comparison to what I had posted in which your reply here was to.  I think we are in the same ballpark. I believe I did say there are 2 separate circuits in the same way you just explained but I cant do this at the moment.  And If I dont have it right and the motor motoring is beneficial to the whole, can you explain why as compared to using a large inductor in place of the motor and just doing the switching with some other mechanism/circuit?

Mags

[citfta]

Hi Mags,

I'll try to take a guess at your last question as to why a motor is different from a large inductor.  Erfinder can correct me if I am wrong.  If you disconnect power from a DC motor while it is still spinning what does it become?

Carroll

[Jeg]

In the same spirit i would say that motor has a comutator. When switch opens, motor coils provide multiple "currents with great electromotive force." Inductor alone will give only one.