ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[ayeaye]

End this madness - you cannot have overunity in equations or simulations - BECAUSE it is external field, just that easy ! 

Yes it comes from outside, this is what by definition overunity is, energy comes from an unknown source. Or if not completely unknown, then at least not well known. I think when there is overunity, most likely it comes from zero point energy, and most likely it is the power that keeps the electrons orbiting the atom. Like what Bedini said, that it comes from resistors or whatever, i don't think it makes sense. So it's really nonsense to try to find overunity, using equations that are made assuming unity, that is no energy coming from outside source.

Comes from zero point energy, and then goes back to there. Which likely always happens, like when we drop and object, and then rise it again to its previous height, the energy comes from zero point, and then an equal amount of energy goes back to zero point again. Zero point is nothing outlandish, it is always there, it is a part of which everything consists of.

[forest]

Zero point energy - stupid excuses for people who do not want to see clearly. Like a cargo cult![/font][/size]

[ayeaye]

Zero point energy - stupid excuses for people who do not want to see clearly. Like a cargo cult![/font][/size]

No, as i see it. Zero point energy is about what the space is. It is a dynamic 3D grid of nodes, or particles, that is in a constant movement, and forms a 3D space. It is that continuous movement that is zero point energy. It is inevitable, as everything consists of movement. By the law of vibration.

One may see it differently, such 3D grid has properties of liquid, and has properties of waves. Like wave is a propagation of a cyclic process, and most processes are cyclic, because of the law of rhythm. We should discuss such things under theory.

[Belfior]

I kinda hate people that give lectures and keep talking about zero point energy devices, because it is cool now. Like there is still movement in absolute zero, so there must be energy, so there must be devices that use this somehow. I think it is just a lack of a better term or actual solution. The same way as saying "I will just use an antenna to pick up the background radiation from the big Bang". Ok. show me the antenna and the device that puts out 5kW?

But I also do believe, that Moray had a working device. TK does not even let people see everything inside those boxes. Moray just removed one component and the rest of the machine he let everybody inspect. I am just wondering if the device used nuclear material in the valves or did he figure out a novel crystal radio. I know the output was HF, because he said it had to be run in "gravity mode" to power other than resistive loads

[ayeaye]

I kinda hate people that give lectures and keep talking about zero point energy devices, because it is cool now. Like there is still movement in absolute zero, so there must be energy, so there must be devices that use this somehow. I think it is just a lack of a better term or actual solution. The same way as saying "I will just use an antenna to pick up the background radiation from the big Bang". Ok. show me the antenna and the device that puts out 5kW?

Yes it is true that overunity, if there is any, is energy coming from unknown source. We don't know that much about zero point either, so yes it is unknown source. Yet we know something, like the Casimir effect, between two plates there is less energy than outside, because there can be less waves between two plates, than outside of them. The same we may think, if we make things more organized, the energy at zero point should decrease, because then there are less possibilities left. Like when a field does work, causing a directional movement, this should decrease energy at zero point. Thus field does work, the energy at zero point decreases, this can be seen as energy coming from zero point. When we work against the field, we likely cause some disturbance, and this may cause the opposite, the energy at zero point increasing.

Thus you cannot say that when one talks about zero point, then this is just because one doesn't know where the energy may come from, and then says zero point, pretending some knowledge. It remains true that what exactly happens at zero point, remains largely unknown. Yet the reason why it's said is because of modeling and analytical thinking, there is some reason to say, not because of pretending to know or because it looks cool.

That there is movement at absolute zero, and this is the only reason why anyone may say that the energy comes from zero point or goes to zero point. No this is not right, this is not the only reason, something is omitted, and thus the conclusion is not exactly right. That there also is the logic, things being more organized, like having two parallel plates, decreases the energy at zero point, and vice versa, things becoming less organized, like removing the two parallel plates, increases the energy at zero point.

Who doesn't restrict oneself with only reading from pages of the textbooks, but also thinks oneself, goes a dangerous road, yes. Because he goes away from the safe paved road. One is not protected, whatever may happen, some always attack. This is what i always feel, it doesn't matter how well i think or how well i explain, they don't even listen, not to talk thinking about what i say. Instead they say, read what is written on these pages of the textbook, and see that this differs from what you say, right? With that they show their complete inability to understand. Who only reads from the pages of the textbook, goes an easy road, yes. and all is good. The only small thing is that he can never discover or invent anything, but this is not a big problem, when everything is really good.