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powerverter gas pressure motor- energy problem solved ???

Started by steve_chow, February 08, 2009, 11:27:52 AM

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sushimoto

Hi, thanks for the Link.
this is very interesting, because its combines a heat-pump
with a turbine instead of using heat-exchangers.

Last week, ive talked to an air-condition guy about how to
convert a air condition into a heat pump by swapping the Air-Exchangers
against water types. But as soon i get another hold on him, i will ask
how many pressure on the "hot"-side appears.

very interesting.
best,
sushimoto
DAMIT DAS MOEGLICHE ENTSTEHT, MUSS IMMER WIEDER DAS UNMOEGLICHE VERSUCHT WERDEN.

Paul-R

Quote from: sushimoto on February 08, 2009, 12:30:16 PM
Last week, ive talked to an air-condition guy about how to
convert a air condition into a heat pump
Don't forget the humble refrigerator, particularly the small ones
which work on an electrical heater rather than a motor (quiet).

Recycling centres are full of them. They go for nothing, and
it is easy to undo a few screws from behind, and pull the
works out backwards.

If the refrigerant circuit is broken, then they are useless, of
course. But most people throw their fridge away because
they are bored with its colour.
Paul.

steve_chow

hi sushimoto

As per PowerVerde systems  they are using  an organic fluid that changes into a gas at a much lower temperature (160F).

Here is my idea , If  we use R134a Refrigerant as a fluid with any steam engine instead of steam it might work because R134a will evaporate in low temp,
but still I need check spec temp vs. PSI for R134a .
please advice....

regards
Chow

kallstrom_74

yes i have thinked about the same thing..a liqiud that boils alot easier than water in a closed cirucut in some kind of steam enginge or perhaps a stirling motor...but i will watch this tread with interest