WHY WON'T IT WORK!

[petersone]

Hi all,it seems impossible to get Mr Lenz to play on our team,and not the opposition,or to give up playing all together!!
peter

[TechStuf]

Not at all....most have just been peering through the wrong 'lenz' is all....

Consider:

Curiously enough, shortly after Faraday's initial experiments with a primitive version of the induction dynamo he discovered that the same voltage could be induced if the magnetic field pieces were affixed directly to the rotor, but that no voltage at all would be induced if the field pieces were rotated while the conductive disk was held stationary! He logically inferred that even if the field pieces were rotating, their magnetic fields must be stationary, and that the type of uniform magnetic field produced by a cylindrical magnet must therefore be a property of space itself (or perhaps more accurately, space-time) and was independent of the magnetic material which serves to create the field. [This quality or effect is an oddity which to this day has no truly satisfactory explanation, though a very good paper from the University of Maryland (Dept. of Physics; Berg & Alley, 2005) strongly suggests the real explanation may lie within the purview of Special Relativity: see www.physics.umd.edu/ . . . q218unipolar.pdf.] - Source: Stardrivedevice.com

http://www.physics.umd.edu/lecdem/outreach/QOTW/arch11/q218unipolar.pdf

Far too few common sense progressional experiments are being done by garden variety researchers like ourselves, in order to gain a wide and stable foundation for discovery.  Starting near the middle or end of another's quest, often proves to be critically flawed beginning for one's own.

So much remains largely unknown about even the basic dynamics of energy systems that there is much room for discovery still....

The biggest and brightest answers all too often remain hidden before the beginning.  Where Simplicity reigns.


TS

[lumen]

@ TechStuf,  I did some testing on unipolar generators and the main problem is that lenz's law still applies! That's why you can make a unipolar motor which is the same as a unipolar generator in reverse. If lenz's law did not apply the unipolar motor would not run.

I also believe if there is no lenz force generated then no work was done either. The trick is to get the force to go the same direction as the working force and not opposite it. In effect, the more work that gets done, the less work it takes.
Or like I say, the inverse lenz generator. ( If that could be real! )

[TechStuf]

The spirit of the law applies....Look at the alnico rod demonstration closely.  I don't wish to abrogate 'lenz's law'....no, instead I wish to see it applied to it's fullest extent.  Or should I simply say, closer to it's fullest extent.  Well before reaching such, nature's perpetual wheelwork will turn and give us it's glistening back for someone to try and throw a saddle on.

Magnets make great levers.  And their 'magical arms' are long indeed.


TS

[winsonali]

i was going through this thread and have developed this understanding its a problem of watching number 6 or 9 in opposite directions 

Most of the unipole generator works on this equation

The total electric potential developed is then determined by integrating this electric field along a radius from the center of the magnet (r = 0) to the outside radius R of the magnet:
E' = r=0R∫ v B dr = ω B R22 ,
where ω is the angular velocity of the magnet, and the linear velocity of a point in the magnet is:
v = ω x r.

the point to notice is we take the potential difference at points where we experience different magnetic poles in this case it will be AC  and it we take potential difference at center of the magnet and one end either north facing or south facing it will generate pure DC

i will make a diagram and small test kit you will see that you can create high current at low voltages both AC and DC and i will explain how it works

faraday's laws do not apply in this case , mechanical power directly transfer to electrically energy. In this case only lose of energy is heat due to friction.

system is a failure due to its non workable production just like Stirling engine (external combustion vs internal combustion)
remember first external engine was developed having great heat lose its developed form with efficiency is internal combustion engine like wise HPO is the basic mechanism of electric city generation its advance version is coil based rotary generators
   
lenz force is nothing but the residual hysteresis magnetic field of the core material improvement in material will enhance the efficiency  of generator.

if any body is interested then i will make diagram of system that can generate direct DC current using HPO