My Current Build

[BAHammer]

Being the king of wheels not just in drawing them, i would like to keep this one going, so completly out of character i will try to calm this thread down. A quick tip on patents and rights. you can publish anything once you have lodged a patent application, but if you publish it first then it is public domian and "can never" be patented by anyone not even the inventor, look it up.

so claims on ownership or restrictng other people from building something you published is a waste of time. Secondly this is to my understanding an open source forum, and the entire purpose is to discuss help and release the information free to the world. anyone with notions of patents should not even be here.

are there parts of other peoples design in each of our own? of course there are, a wheel by its very nature joins us all, the gravity concept of shifting weight joins us all, be it with levers or pendulums, magnets or pulleys, we all use the same basic principal. was the first mag wheel on a car simply a rim with holes drilled in it or the one that sucked the air onto the brakes?

if your device works, it is the first of its kind no matter how close others were, until then they are all similar, were you the first to think of it? who knows, if they can show a published work of it the yes, if not that does not mean no, simply that they were unable to do so or chose not to, the debate of the ages on this website.

I have design many wheels over the years, especially the last one, if you want a wheel that truns by weight shift without question or argument.


try this completely new and thought of it whilst writing this, one wheel 12 arms on each arm there is a glass tube  the tubes are filled with mercury, as the temp rises the weeight of the mercury shifts upward in each tube like a thermometer, as the wheel truns and the merc runs down to the bottom end the cyle repeats. does it work? I don't know but it is as likely as any other and we know that even on its side a thermomter will act that way. was i the first this instance to think of it? who knows.

settle grettle this is a published site, and all things being equal unless you have a patent for a working device lodged, it is already too late to claim ownership or patent rights

well thats enough being nice, back to my own to tell people where to go

   Quinn,
There is one thing about a couple of designs I have worked on. If I say it is something Bessler built, and it works, doubt a patent would be allowed.
Of course, they could say that the design was improved on and give one. That is up to the patent office.
Also, if something is openly posted and is a new concept, it brings up one question, is this a publication ?
An inventor has one year of first publication of an invention to get a patent. And only the inventor can obtain a patent.
But then, I see no reason to build because someone else is going to sit and judge every post I make. They should get their own life. But if they had something going on better than myself, they wouldn't be in my business. Yet they are.

[erickdt]

   Quinn,
There is one thing about a couple of designs I have worked on. If I say it is something Bessler built, and it works, doubt a patent would be allowed.

Why would that be? No one knows how his wheel worked (if it worked at all) so therefore no one can/could patent which intern means that no one could prevent you (or anyone else) from patenting a similar mechanism. Since there would be no way of proving that whatever mechanism you've come up with is the same as Bessler's no one could make a claim that you've copied it.

[grayone]

   Quinn,
There is one thing about a couple of designs I have worked on. If I say it is something Bessler built, and it works, doubt a patent would be allowed.
Of course, they could say that the design was improved on and give one. That is up to the patent office.
Also, if something is openly posted and is a new concept, it brings up one question, is this a publication ?
An inventor has one year of first publication of an invention to get a patent. And only the inventor can obtain a patent.
But then, I see no reason to build because someone else is going to sit and judge every post I make. They should get their own life. But if they had something going on better than myself, they wouldn't be in my business. Yet they are.

BAHammer; First off you have to get what is called a provisional patent that give you a year. If you want people to stay out of your business. Don't post in open forum. For if you do, it becomes every bodies business. Now quit crying about it. 

[Alexioco]

LOL WRIGHT Here is a more entertaining one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCpCvID6XD8&feature=channel_page

haha lol I like it, the movement of the dogs leg causes the arm to scratch his back which causes him to move his leg haha Thats classic


Alex

[BAHammer]

BAHammer; First off you have to get what is called a provisional patent that give you a year. If you want people to stay out of your business. Don't post in open forum. For if you do, it becomes every bodies business. Now quit crying about it. 

It's someone else that is crying about it. And I do think it is as I said, if someone can figure out something considered next to impossible and says most likely it is Bessler's design, that would get consideration. After all, everyone that tried and failed couldn't be considered credible. A lack of understanding of this type of behavior would have been demonstrated.
I notice the design I posted and bessler 007 reposted ( thank you  ) has gotten little notice. Possibly because everybody else didn't consider the pendulum and the wheel concept could lead to a capable design. With myself, it would be my willingness to have spent time studying math that would have made the difference. It does help.
But it's not what you guys care to discuss, is it ?