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Overunity Machines Forum



First electrical power output from a Pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, January 18, 2006, 05:32:45 PM

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Tigrotto

Hi Stefan and thank for your help you gave not onyl me but also for other of us .
So the graphite rods are "a little bit immersed in Salt-water", it is true?
My German being poor, I understand that the GRAPHITE RODS DIDN'T TOUCH THE SALTWATER!
YOU SAID OPPOSITE , IT'S TRUE?
So, there is a weak, but real electric contact between the two opposite graphite rods, it's true?
Regarding the quartzsand, it fill almost all the internal part of the Copper closed tube, that's correct?
THANKS AGAIN AND PLEASE GIVE ME THIS LAST CONFIRMATION.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT THIS CONFIRMATION YOU CHECKED WITH THOMAS DIRECLTY AS WE TO HAVE NOT YOUR "PERSONAL"OPINION, BUT THE RIGHT OPINION OF THE INVENTOR THOMAS HIMSELF!!!
Tigrotto (Dr.Ovidiu Petria

CLaNZeR

Thanks for this Stefan

Cheers

Sean.

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 22, 2007, 05:06:33 PM
Hi All,
here is an edited circuit diagram I did to the Prof. Ovidiu
diagram.

I think this is now the correct version.

The saltwater MUST touch the graphite electrode, but the saltwater must be
only inside the lower part, so the graphite electrodes must not be fully in the saltwater.

Okay, here is the graphics, click on it to see its full size:



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hartiberlin

Okay, I did now the english translation for the guidance buildingof the pyramid.

As the German text is now also down at Mr. Traw?ger?s website, I include it here also
again:

Bauanleitung
   
   

Bauanleitung: 1 Pyramide 100cm Seitenl?nge!

Auch wenn es ziemlich einfach klingt, aber die Grundmasse der Pyramide spielen nur eine untergeordnete Rolle. Wichtig sind nur 2

Faktoren:

Die Bodenform der Pyramide muss absolut Quadratisch sein.
Die Seitenmasse der Pyramide m?ssen derzeit der Bodenl?nge gleichen*



Ich verwende zur Konstruktion der Pyramide Formrohre aus Stahl (20x20mm)
Die Seitenw?nde der Pyramide wurden zur Leistungoptimierung mit Gipskartonplatten
verkleidet. ( ohne Seitenverkleidung ist die Ausrichtung sehr schwierig)

Seitenverkleidungen aus Aluminium oder sonstigen Metallen funktionieren nicht ?
Seitenverkleidungen aus Kunststoff funktionieren nicht?

An der Pyramidenspitze wird zu Messzwecken ein Lot eingeh?ngt, und anschliessend der
Geometrische Mittelpunkt errechnet. (Schnittpunkt aller Fl?chenmitten-siehe Skizze 1)

Dieser Mittelpunkt ist die einzige etwas schwierigere Aufgabe.

Der Pyramidenaufbau ist gut zu erden! (Messplatzerdung und Massepunkt f?r alle weiteren Messungen!)

Der Aufbau des Energieabgriffes ist in Skizze 2 geschildert.
Mittels Kupferrohr ca. 12mm wird ein U-F?rmiger Korpus hartgel?tet.
2 T-St?cke verbinden diesen Korpus an der Oberseite.

Am Oberteil dieser Konstruktion wird eine kleine Lasche zur Befestigung verl?tet (3) und mittels nicht leitf?higer Schnur so in die

Pyramide eingeh?ngt, dass sich der Pyramidenmittelpunkt genau im Mittelpunkt des Energieabgriffs befindet.

An der linken Seite der Konstruktion wird ein ca. 9omm langer Grafithstab derart eingef?hrt, dass er mittig im Rohr steckt, und keinen

Kontakt zum Rohr hat.
(ACHTUNG! Der Stab muss innerhalb des Rohes frei sein, und darf unten nicht irgendwie
Fixiert sein!)

Anschlissend 9 Windungen Kupferdraht 2,5 mm zu einer Spule wickeln. (Innen-dm ca.25mm) und freies Ende nach unten ablaufen lassen.

An der gegen?berliegenden Seite ebenfalls einen Grafithstab (2-3mm Bleistiftmine) frei in den Energieabgriff h?ngen. (L?nge ein kleines

St?ck l?nger zB. 95mm)



An der rechten Seite ein kleines Loch ca. 2mm in das Kupferrohr bohren. Dieses Loch muss
Etwas tiefer sein als der Grafithstab einsteht!!! (Abstand mind. 2mm)

An der linken Seite wird auch ein ca. 2mm Loch gebohrt (Auch hier etwas tiefer als der Grafithstab einsteht!

An der rechten Seite wird eine gegenl?ufige Spule mit 9 Windungen (2,5 mm CU) installiert.
In Skizze 3 wird der Kondensator n?her erkl?rt!

Der Kondensator soll exakt mit seinem Mittelpunkt im absoluten Mittelpunkt der Pyramide stehen.

Der Energieabgriff muss nun komplett (aber locker!) mit Quarzsand (am besten W?stensand oder Filtersand f?r Schwimmbecken) gef?llt

werden.

ACHTUNG! Beim Bef?llen ist darauf zu achten, dass die Elektroden (Grafithtst?be) keinen
Kontakt zum Kuperrohr bekommen (Multimeter)



Nun wird mittels nicht leidender schn?re der Energieabgriff so in die Pyramide eingeh?ngt, dass der Kondensator genau in der

Schnittmitte der Pyramide h?ngt!

F?r diesen Vorgang die Pyramide nicht ausgenordet aufstellen!!!!!

Nun mit einer Einwegspritze Salzwasser (ca 5%) in das linke untere Loch einspritzen, bis der erste Tropfen beim rechten Loch

herauskommt.
LANGSAM, und nicht so viel, dass die Grafithelektroden in der Salzlauge stehen.

In Skizze 4 wird gezeigt, in welchem Winkel sich der Energieabgriff zur Pyramide befinden soll, und wir die Pyramide eingenordet wird.

Ein kleiner Plattenkondensator ( ca 25x 140mm) mit jeweils einer Platte kann die Leistung der Pyramide vervielfachen. Dieser wird am

Energieabgriff schr?g nach unten verlaufend im Winkel von ca. 40 ? rechtwinkelig zur Pyramide laufend ausgef?hrt.

Von dort erfolgt auch der Abgriff der tats?chlichen Leistung. (AUSGANG!)
(Achtung!! Einen Pol (welcher ist egal) mit der Pyramide verbinden. Dieser Pol wird automatisch Masse -?!?!)

EINNORDEN:
Ein Multimeter anschliessen, und die Pyramide langsam drehen. Sobald die Pyramide die h?chste Spannung zeigt. (Leerlaufspannung ca. 19

Volt) passt die Richtung.

M?gliche Fehlerquellen:
Zuviel Salzwasser: ---- Einfach eine Stunde warten
Zuwenig Salzwasser:--- F?llen, bis Salzwasser rechts austritt
Elektrodenkontakt zum Kupferrohr?Vor dem Bef?llen mit Salzwasser Multimetertest auf Kurzschluss!!!

Weitere M?glichkeiten:
Kondensatorkurzschluss (Vor Montage pr?fen)
Pyramide liefert nicht. Standort ver?ndern, und am besten im Freien probieren.



Pyramid Building guidance

Building guidance: pyramid with 100cm side length!

It sounds rather simple, but the basic dimensions of the pyramid do not play an important role.

Only 2 factors are important:

The ground shape of the pyramid must be absolutely square.


The length of the pyramid upper corner rods must be the same as the base quadrat square rod lengths.
So all frame rods are 100 cm long !


I use for the side rods of the pyramid for the construction of the pyramid steel pipes  (20x20mm).
which are optimized with gypsum-paper boards( plates).


(Without these gypsum-paper boards( plates) the adjustment of the pyramid is very difficult)


Plates made of aluminum or other metals do not function.
Plates from plastic do not function.

At the pyramid point for measuring purposes a plumb bob is hung up, and calculated afterwards the geometrical center
of all the sides ofthe pyramid.


(intersection of all surfaces in their centers -see sketch 1)



To find this exact center of all the pyramid sides is the only  difficult task in setting it all up.



The pyramid must be grounded very well !
(measuring position must be grounded and ground must be connected to the frame for all further measurements!)




The structure of the energy pick-up circuit is described in sketch 2.


From  copper tubing approx. 12mm in diameter we are hardsoldering a "U"-shaped
body.

2 pieces of T-fittings are fitted to this body at the top side.


On the upper section of this construction a small latch for attachment is hard soldered to the copper pipe.

(3) and the whole body is hung with a non conductive cord in such a way into the pyramid that the pyramid center is exactly in the

center of the energy pick-up capacitor.



At the left side of the Tube approx. a 90 mm long Graphiterod is in such a manner inserted  that it is put centrically into the pipe

and  has no contact to the pipe.
(NOTE! The rod must be free hanging and must not be fixed down there at the bottom... !)


Now wind 9 turns of isolated copperwire 2.5 mm diameter to a coil winding. (inside diameter about 25mm)
and let the free end run downward.


On the opposite side put likewise a graphiterod (2-3mm diameter pencil rod)
freely hanging into the tube. (length of the graphiterod a bit longer e.g. 95mm)


Bore at the right side a small hole approx.  2mm diameter into the copper tube.

This hole must be somewhat more below than the Graphiterod`s end !!!

(distance at least 2mm)




At the left side also approx. a 2mm hole is bored (also here somewhat more below than the Graphiterod?s end !


At the right side a coil moving in opposite directions with 9 turns (2.5 mm cu) is installed.

In sketch 3 the condenser is explained!

The condenser is to stand accurately with its center in the absolute center of the pyramid. The energy pick-up tubing must now

completely (however loosely!) filled with quartz sand (.g. finest desert sand or filtersand for pools).
NOTE! When filling it is to be made certain that the electrodes (Graphiterods) do not get in contact with the copperpipes (test with

Ohmmeter)

Now hang the energy pick-up tubing in such a way into the pyramid that the condenser hangs exactly in the centerof thepyramid!

Do not set up the pyramid yet for this procedure into Noth South direction!!!!!


Now with a one-way syringe inject saltwater (approx. 5%)  into the left lower hole, until the first drop comes out at the right hole.


SLOWLY inject saltwater until the Graphiterods are standing with their lower ends in the saltwater-sand solution.

Sketch 4 shows, in which angle the energy pick-up tubing is to be connected to the pyramid, and how the pyramid is adjusted to north

south alignment.

A small plate capacitor (approx. 25x 140 mm)where only the plus pole is going through and
the negative pole comes from the pyramid frame  can multiply the power output of the pyramid.


This must be placed  diagonally downward running in the angle of approx. 40 ? right-angled
to the pyramid at the energy pick-up tubing.


From this capacitor also the real output power of the pyramid power takes place. (EXIT!)


(Note: The negative pole must be connected from the pyramid frame to this capacitor
to the other capacitorplate.)


Adjustment of the noth-south alignment:

Connect a voltmeter to the output and turn the pyramid slowly .

As soon as the pyramid shows the highest voltage tension. (open circuit voltage approx.. 19 V) the direction aligment fits.


Possible sources of error:

Too much saltwater: --- Simply , wait one hour until it has run out enough.
Too low volume of saltwater: - - - Inject more saltwater until it drops out of the right hole.

graphite rod to electrode contact: ---check before installation with an Ohmmeter, that this is not the case.

Further possibilities: ------Condenser short-circuit (test it before assembly)

pyramid does not generate power: -----Change Location, try it outdoors.


English Translation by Stefan Hartmann for www.overunity.com

Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

@Tigrotto,
yes, the sand is filled up into the whole copper tubbing,
so the graphite rods are inside the tube all covered with sand,
maybe not just the top of them, where the wires are connected...
this we still need to ask Mr. Traw?ger..
But the saltwater is only injected into the left hole until it drops
out at the right hole, so only the lower parts of the graphite rods
stand in the wet sand-saltwater.
He said too much saltwater is not good...
Just a bit wet sand. So this is basically a galvanic cell and produces around
0.7 to 1 Volt DC voltage.
Maybe this is  just an energizer voltage so the LC circuit resonates..
but normally you need some kind of  active device like a transistor to
control the oscillation...
I don?t yet understand how this thing generates DC voltage at the output
and also this high....19 Volts.. andso much power...

Well, we need to research this.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Tigrotto

Hi Stefan,
Congratulations for your great work you did here.
We had the circuit, now, we can think "around" the phenomena:
Facts:
1. The internal circuit is "hanging" in one point only(A), that is not a closed circuit!This looks like a microwave generator!!!
2. The calculated oscillation frequency of the LC assembly is around 8MHz.
3. Extremely strange for a DC source ( as it really is): The "shunt resistance" of the Voltage generator is "Infinite" !!! We "collect" the power from the 25x140mm capacitor! Never heard before , but... it works!
Conclusion : ? ( By now!)