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Overunity Machines Forum



First electrical power output from a Pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, January 18, 2006, 05:32:45 PM

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skywatcher

Quote from: neptune on December 22, 2007, 02:19:20 PM
I think that the battery charging experiment by Georgemay could be very significant. More work is needed here to duplicate this, and try to improve it.

I had a NiMh accu in my pyramid frame (without gypsum boards) for 2 days, and the voltage didn't increase a single millivolt.

QuoteCan someone help me here. If you look at the picture of a converter on page 1 of this subject, It appears to me that t the 2 graphite rods are connected together by the wire running across the top of the copper frame. Anyone agree/disagree?

The converter on page 1 is not V6 (i think it was V4 ?).
If there were graphite rods in the converter (which we don't know), it looks like they were connected via this wire.

pese

Quote from: skywatcher on December 22, 2007, 12:33:29 PM
Quote from: Walter Hofmann on December 22, 2007, 05:31:21 AM
make the top that both T are 45 degree turned what means the middle opening connected with short piece of pipe and one opening straigt up this makes it easier for the rods to be hold in place

???


So this way.

you can exchange electrode and sand easy
Yes 45 degrees is wrong . 90 ?  ist right.
so that it is an ( Toploader)


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neptune

@Skywatcher. Your battery charge experiment gave result, even though it was a negative result. I am not sure If Georgemay had gypsum boards fitted. I f he had, then perhaps this shows they are necessary for charging. Also, what was the cell voltage at the start of the test. Perhaps this is effect only works up to a given voltage?
@ V4? converter. This is interesting, because I plan on giving this version a try, At least we have a photo, which may be worth a thousand words.Also, if in the v4 we have a galvanic cell effect, it must use the voltage between the rods-connected-together, and the copper. Thus it would be easy to substitute 2 zinc carbon cells to eliminate the unreliability of the copper-graphite -saltwater cell or cells.
      Also, there is some disagreement about if the copper frame of the v4 is grounded to the steel frame vie its support. That is something else to try.
      Sorry for these brainstorm ideas, but we all have to keep trying or we can not win.

skywatcher

Quote from: pese on December 22, 2007, 03:30:45 PM
Quote from: skywatcher on December 22, 2007, 12:33:29 PM
Quote from: Walter Hofmann on December 22, 2007, 05:31:21 AM
make the top that both T are 45 degree turned what means the middle opening connected with short piece of pipe and one opening straigt up this makes it easier for the rods to be hold in place

???

So this way.

you can change electrode and sand easy

Ok... this is the configuration which came also into my mind, but the '45 degree' confused me... it should read '90 degree'.  ;)

With this configuration it's easy to change sand and electrodes, but in the original plan the wires for the coils are coming out on the side of the converter, not on top. We don't know if this will affect the functionality of the converter. I will think about it tomorrow... maybe there is a more elegant way to solve all problems but being more close to the original plans...   8)

skywatcher

Quote from: neptune on December 22, 2007, 03:34:02 PM
Also, what was the cell voltage at the start of the test. Perhaps this is effect only works up to a given voltage?

It was 1.2834 V. The cells had been charged some months ago, and had been untouched for some months.
Shortly after charging, they have more than 1.3 V.
The cell was in vertical orientation during the experiment. Pyramid frame was oriented to geographical nord.

I didn't wanted to discharge them to avoid unwanted variations in the voltage due to settling processes.