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First electrical power output from a Pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, January 18, 2006, 05:32:45 PM

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duff

PYRAman,

Interesting thoughts...

Quote from: PYRAman on January 22, 2008, 07:24:33 AM
I think I made a new discovery by looking at the Keops pyramid cross section. When the Grand Gallery was filled with water and in the portcullis of the ante-chamber of the kings chamber some strings vibrated by means of wind coming through the narrow channels in the walls, the whole thing became a kind of a SOUND making instrument. Over the kings chamber are the so called relief chambers, made of thick plates POLISHED ONLY ON THE SIDE TOWARDS THE CHAMBER. I thing this is a kind of multi-stage resonator for sound, not relief chambers.

I really know very little about the Keops pyramid. When was it filled with water?

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What if Thomas Trawoeger used the narrow pipe on the left side of the copper pipes assembly also for INJECTING SOUND (ultrasound?) into the pipes?
This is my supposition of how it may work: by injecting sound into the pipes, the cuartz cristalls start to vibrate and being in the focal point of the pyramid (?) they convert the pyramid energy (whatever this may be) into electricity. Now, being immersed into the salted water, the cristalls DISCHARGE immediately and WARM UP the water and the lower pipe. I think the salt concentration may be higher than just 5 percent.

How could the pipes vibrate if they are filled with sand?


Something that I noted but have not posted is that after I made the initial injection of salt solution the Energy pickup unit develops a somewhat large capacitance / inductance.

For example here are some measurements I made after making the initial injection of salt solution. The measurements were made from the each terminal with respect to the top latch (copper tubing):

Hung EPU on a string from top latch
90mm carbon rod voltage: 0.0621 VDC / 0.0000 VAC / 45.0 mH / 1.06 uF
95mm carbon rod voltage: 0.0617 VDC / 0.0000 VAC / 57.0 mH / 0.81 uF

Also as the voltage changes so does the capacitance / inductance.

Measurement made 10 hours later:
90mm carbon rod voltage: 0.1704 VDC / 0.0000 VAC / 25.6 mH / 1.54 uF
95mm carbon rod voltage: 0.1810 VDC / 0.0000 VAC / 27.8 mH / 1.43 uF

Plug those numbers into the resonance formula:
1 / (2 * pi * sqrt(L * C))
1 / (2 * 3.14159 * sqrt(25.6E-3 * 1.54E-6)) = 801.57 Hz

1/(2 * 3.14159 * sqrt(27.8-E-3 * 1.43E-6)) = 798.23 Hz

Beat Frequencies:
   801.57 - 798.23 =3.33 Hz
   801.57 + 798.23 = 1.59 KHz

Could sound play a part?


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If this all is true, Thomas Trawoeger just played with you in his own interest, because from what I have read until now, he never mentioned sound or heat.
As a rule of thumb, when you try to find the working principle, ALWAYS LOOK AT THE EGYPTIAN PYRAMIDS, especially at the Keops pyramid.

PYRAman

It seems that errors/contradictions can be found in almost every statement Thomas made. Perhaps he did not share everything and what is missing would tie up the loose ends. I don't know. I'm still trying to work within the bounds of what was shared.


-Duff

neptune

I find it amazing that so much effort has been put into this, when there is so little to go on. As I previously stated, we do not even know the thinking process that lead TT to conclude that electricity could be obtained from a pyramid.{assuming it is not a hoax.] We do not know what is being converted by the converter. The "hot spot" could be very small. If it is the converter is a clumsy instrument with which to search. To me , the important question is, can anyone show evidence of ANY phenomena which ONLY occurs within the pyramid. Without this, there can be no hope. I would hazve thought that if sound played a part it would be audible on the video.

duff

Neptune,

I agree with you - it is very unlikely that sound is a part of this.

Yes - the converter is a clumsy instrument and FRAGLE. Sit it down too hard or drop it and all it's characteristics change.

I find it amazing that some of the people that built did not take the time to throughly explore the device and see if there was anything there.

I invested a lot of time and effort into building so I'm going to take the time to explore what is there if anything.

Realistically, there is very little hope of making this work and I'm aware of that.


-Duff

neptune

@Duff. I would be the last person on earth to discourage you from further research, in spite of my last post. If we could just get a "handle" on exactly what kind of energy we are looking for, we would have a better chance. I ha\ve tried all kinds of weird ideas, just to try to prove that conditions inside the pyramid are different from those outside. No luck up to now. One theory I had was that the air inside became slightly ionised. The only way I can think of to test this is to use an adjustable spark gap. A given voltage should jump a bigger gap in ionised air than in normal air. Also somewhere I read that a column of ionised air appears ABOVE a pyramid. I was going to test these theories with a car ignition coil, but cant seem to find it at present. Regarding beat frequencies of ?.33 and !.59 kilohertz. Although it is not generally known, Radio waves as well as sound waves can exist at these frequencies[ELF or extreemly low frequencies, google it]

duff

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If we could just get a "handle" on exactly what kind of energy we are looking for, we would have a better chance.

@Neptune

I am familiar with ELF and have done quite a bit of reading related to it. Perhaps something in that frequency range triggers an event in the pyramid which allows the energy to start being received. Who knows...

At this point I have not found the pyramid influences anything inside it  -  that I can measure. If we could just find an affect that is measurable then we could possibly get a foothold.

It could depend on the pickup device being in just the right location before any effect appears.

I did some testing last night with a disc  trying to rotate the pickup device around a specific point - nothing.

Everything related to this device has to be precision work and my disc was not close. Today, I'm just thinking about what I need to do to be able to test this in a precise way.


-Duff