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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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Hi Torana

I think there are a lot of problems with understanding stans technology, but researching his history leaves me with very little doubt he had achieved the efficient water to fuel process.
Meyer was assasinated his technology removed from his property and stephen meyer went on to start the company xogen, a oil company friendly way of efficiently splitting water. Stephen will say nothing of use to us about stans technology which leaves us with just the patents and here i think could be part of the problem, either meyer left out vital information leaving parts of his process unprotected, hidden it so well nobody can work it out or before the release of his patents they had been altered. Lets face it if you murder stan there`s no way you will allow patents with enough information to be released, there needs to be some serious lateral thinking to work this out.
Torana like you i am stuck with his vic, i have found out how he gets the high voltages in the wfc and it is not his charge choke but the current restriction is proveing a problem, a clue maybe with his early technology that ravvi has replicated.

 

h20power

Quote from: Torana on May 18, 2011, 08:50:58 PM
Your not going to like this one...
If your planned  Reso freq = 1830 hz , the plates alternate at 1830 cps AC based on LC timing.
If you move to a larger L , the freq drops and X changes.
L + C are passive components that react differently to AC = REACTANCE
Xc and XL are 180 degrees to each other and cancel each other
2 pi formulas are sine , circular not pulse.
**A choke does not stop DC...... Electrons

6326.44  +  22996.46  +  23015.04    + 78.54  X  3.77883 nf...
   R l      + 2 pi f L      + 1/ (2 pi f C ) +  stan fig??  X  C

78.54 OHMS is one of Stans tricks that out lived him and unfortunately stuck to the blanket.

**specific constants are measured at specific temperatures...78.54 @ 25 degrees centigrade, the same sample @ 20 degrees C = 80.37 , the same sample @ 100 degrees C = 55.33 ....
The Dielectric constant CANT be measured in OHMS and NEVER has been ,HOW ? ? ? ,ones a temperature the other is a ratio.

Resistivity ,R ,X ,Z are measured in Ohms but R is the only one used in RC time constant.
If you want 1830 hz ,youll need a power supply and it will need a timing circuit wether its 555 , TL494 or what ever ,it will also need an RC combo on the timing pins.

Stans WFC tech brief has mis info through out , ANYONE can go thru and check .

Have a look thru this site at RC timing and theres a section on tuned circuits.

http://www.learn-about-electronics.com/rc-time-constant.html

Theres alot of people putting in an honest effort into researching Meyers but surely there needs to be an honest approach to the info he was peddling.  Put it under the microscope .
There is an actual possibility that the info is BOGUS and not even Jesus can change that .
Square one is there for everyone and unfortunately we're all there but drifting down the same path that a dead man pointed down isnt going to help .

..as you were... and NO Im not kicking you or anyone else in the guts.

I was wondering just how long it would take you to openly challenge me directly, took a lot of guts to do so I must admit given the high level of science I have uncovered about the work of Stanley A. Meyer to this date. Your Meyer hating ass will get toss in the garbage with me I am afraid. Sorry for the grown up words but I have read all of your post and you do nothing to aid humanity in anyway shape or form towards becoming energy independent.

Now for some missing key information on why no one has gotten the figure 3-23 isolated VIC transformers to work correctly in charging the WFC's they built for them. For starters people have been building them incorrectly all of these years. As what is seen in the patents is not draw correctly and some key information is missing. Secondly they have all been wiring the WFC's incorrectly due to no fault of their own as that information was just not given in the patents.

In the patent it says to wind a core with 200 turn primary, 600 turns secondary, and 100 turns for each choke, correct? The key missing information is the build of the WFC that thing is to be connected too as hooking it up to one electrode pair will result in failure. Why? The transformer can't handle the load the single capacitor places on it and everyone knows if you overload a transformer it simply will not work, correct? That transformer has to be connected to an eleven electrode capacitor pair set up all wired in series. This has to be done this way to bring the load down so the transformer can charge up the WFC. With each electrode pair wired in series the load seen by the transformer is lowered. Now this is where the 78.54 ohms you like to say is bogus comes in play for it is impedance matching the same as done in a typical car stereo set up. Now in a car audio system if you place to high of a load on the system it will burn out, but in a transformer if that is done it simply will not turn on. And as many of you out there can agree when you hooked this transformer (for those who built it) to the one electrode pair it would only put out around 4 volts, correct? It never dawn on anyone to lighten the load on the transformer by adding more electrode pairs connecting them all in series as far as I can tell to lighten the load on the transformer so it could power up and charge the WFC. That would be the same as you getting an audio amp rated at 8 ohms and then you placed a 1 one load on it. If you want the transformer to work you have to lighten the load and use 8 ohms or more in the example I gave, correct? 78.54 ohms is to low for the transformer to power up so you have to add more capacitors in series to add more resistance to the system until you get to a point where the transformer will work, get it? Meyer placed eleven capacitors in series which gives a total resistance of 863.94 ohms of resistance, thus cutting the load on the transformer so it can charge up the capacitors. Every capacitor has a resistance element to is construction and a water capacitor is no exception to the rule.

Interestingly enough that arrangement of the WFC restricts amps and allows voltage to take over as it is not to different from connecting some audio speakers in series which cuts the load on the amplifier, correct? Voltage remains constant but amps are divided among the capacitors thus cutting the load to the transformer to the point where it can charge up the capacitors. That math I will leave up to the individual to calculate. Now for visual proof of what I am talking about from Stanley A. Meyer's own WFC that ran his dune buggy on nothing but water as a source of fuel.

http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/fig3-25resonantcavityB.jpg
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/resonant_cavity_tube.jpg
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/Resonant_Cavity_4.jpg

@Torana, Stay off of my thread as if you have noticed I stay off of yours out of respect, so return the favor.

h2opower

MasterPlaster


h20power

Here is a video I made wiring the WFC in series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqVIJOa6NsU
Note this is pure distilled water no caustics of any kind are being used.

From this experiment I learned that the more capacitors wired in series the more efficient the process becomes. Unlike the prior state of the art with Dr. Faraday's electrolysis, when increasing the surface area of the plates in this manor decreases amp use which is the direct opposite of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis. I am currently building a new 12 capacitor WFC to see the full effects of this process. From what I have observed this is like impedance matching with an audio amplifier. Example, say you have an audio amplifier rated at 10 ohms and you only have 1 ohm speakers in which to connect to the amplifier. What happens if you connect all the speakers in parallel to the amplifier? It will burn out correct? What happens if you connect just one speaker to the amplifier? Again it will burn out or just not be able to power the load. The only way to get the amplifier working correctly is to wire ten or more 1 ohm speakers in series, correct? That my friends is the reason why so many have tried and failed at replicating Meyer's method of water decomposition.

As you some of you might have guessed by now, this new WFC is to be used to power up my test car, along with the Gas Processor, and needed circuitry. So you can see I am getting prepared what are you doing to get prepared?

In the attachment is a photo of how to calculate these series capacitor arrays. The resistance is additive just like any series resistance and the capacitance is the reciprocal of capacitances. So as you add more capacitors you decrease the capacitance and increase the resistance of the circuit. Remember the WFC is a part of the VIC circuit just as Meyer says. The VIC transformer has to be matched to a load that it can power, and one capacitor is too great of a load as those of you that have given this a try have already experienced. When you go to drive it with that great of a load all that happens is the transformer gets hot and only about 2-5 volts are seen at the capacitor correct? Now build a WFC with ten or more capacitors wired in series and that transformer might have a chance of powering the new series connected WFC array you just made.

But remember to get the needed power to power an engine you need to build the Gas Processor.

Enjoy breaking down water the Meyer way,
h2opower

MasterPlaster

Quote from: Don
Let me give you some info to help understand Stans work.
1st: Stan had three water cells.
1- variable plate cell (non resonance)
2-multi tube cell,alternator powered (also non resonance)
3-resonanct cavity,11 tube cell (the only resonance cell)
The first two cells were amp restricting cells.They only show amp restriction and no resonance action.

2nd: The biggest mistake most people make is that they think the multi tube demo cell worked on resonance,It didn't.

3rd:The next mistake they make is trying to drive a multi tube cell with a frequency driver to find resonance.It won't work,back to 2nd fact.

4th: Another mistake people make is mixing different technologies together, 3rd fact.
This one is the bigest thing I see people doing wrong.Trying to use a VIC coil with the multi tube cell.They are two different technologies.