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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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Quote from: d3x0r on February 06, 2023, 04:36:41 AM
I don't really understand how the diode affects the circuit... and would appreciate some explanation.
A diode doesn't COMPLETELY block current, but rather it has a capacitance which will build up a charge (very quickly, it's not a very big capacitance) and then the current will reflect back down the coil (no?).


In one sense - if the inductances are low, then you'll end up just pulse- charging DC plates with voltage... and then can just go back to DC?  But the idea is that this is pulsed across the water cell using the cell as a capacitor; and even using the water itself to distribute the charge rather than layers of plates.  But that transformer is on a ferrite core, so that inductance is pretty high, and going to be fighting against other coils too... so does the diode effectively choke it? And then isn't it really just DC? And barely even pulsed?  Since the multiple pulses are just going to charge the plate, have a long off time to let that dissipate across the water?



I've seen this work; but haven't really been that impressed with the analysis of the circuit, what are the water frequencies (oh I see they're noted on the patent) how fast is thee inner charge?  How long is the overall gate frequency?  I guess that's noted too; still would be nice to see it confirmed in a working setup.
I guess the frequency part needed for a 4 cylinder engine is (? 6000RPM 100RPS 400Hz per cylinder?)


What ever happened to that iron d max guy?  I know life happened. 
Is there another shop one can buy the circuits pre-fab?  Can we instead make a reasonable facsimile using an arduino or pi or something?


edit: :) too bad things change; the links at the start of this thread no longer work; but I see many have been at this a while.


Hello 3dx0r,


The VIC circuit is as simple as it looks but it is also very complex at the same time. The blocking diode functions as a switch which for the most part is either open or it's closed. Sure there is some current leakage but it's very small to the point one can ignore it. If you don't build it, get the tools needed to view it, and test it first hand it's kinda hard to explain as most come to me having not read this thread, nor read Meyer's patents, and also having never performed a single experiment with this technology.


The Voltage Intensifier Circuit is just a way to mimic the earth's global electric circuit electronically, but why is that important, correct? Most people don't know that a thunderstorm breaks the bonds of the water molecules by way of ionization and that lightening and thunder are not the same thing. You have to be really good at observing things to be able to tell that the two are totally different and that one does cause the other. When the water molecules are broken down in this fashion you get hydrogen and oxygen gas atoms plus the creation of an electric charge. When this charge potential difference has enough energy to overcome the air's resistance to current flow it creates lightning. As the water molecules are being subjected to a high voltage potential difference the electrons of those atoms has a threshold voltage where the atoms will then eject their electrons. Think of it as boiling water as if you bring the water to 90°C at STP will the water ever boil? The answer it no. So too does the electrons have a threshold that must be crossed before those atoms will move to eject their electrons. This threshold voltage is capacitor space gap dependent and the transformer has to be powerful enough to power the load that is placed upon it. It's a bit tricky to accomplish this which is why you don't see many out there doing this but trust me it is doable.


Now once I moved this thread from the hho topic to this one I stopped any and all teaching of this technology as I can see with my own eyes that I have to be the change I wish to see in this world and that this technology is on the costly side as things have to be done by making "One-Offs," which is the most costly way to go about building things. I don't see anyone following my lead so what was the point of continued sharing beyond just the raw science behind this technology? So, once I shared the raw science behind this technology I fulfilled a promise I made many years ago. To go beyond that is a bridge too far for me as I have been treated very poorly by these types of forums online. I think this is the very last forum that hasn't banned me that I joined into as all the other forums banned me in an effort to shut down the science I was uncovering about this technology as I continued to make use of the scientific method on this technology since the science I was sharing conflicted with their theories and guesses which were backed by nothing scientific.


After going to the 2013 Global Energy Breakthrough Movement conference held in Boulder, Colorado I started to leave everyone behind as none would follow my lead as folks like Max Miller, Russ Gries, and a whole lot of others told them not too. Where Max was putting around 500 volts to his WFC I was putting 9.2kv to mines. I went on to reach 10kv of potential difference but I then discovered I had made a few mistakes in the WFC design as, like many others, I too went off of Don Gable's sharing of how the WFC was to be made. That turned out to be a big mistake as the space gap between the electrodes of the resonant cavities was just too large. I then corrected that mistake and posted why I had to do so in this thread someplace.
People were telling folks that I was faking it somehow but in the interview video made by John Fraser it was made clear that I was not. But since the forum leaders at those times were telling people to not follow my lead and/or that I was a fraud I was forced to go it alone. I'd tell people that they needed to get a differential probe and they would in unison tell people that no they didn't have to get that tool. This went on until they simply faded away as over time they had nothing to show for their efforts when I did. But like all technologies I found that I still had much to learn about this technology so I humbled myself and kept my nose to the grind stone of science and pressed on.


I am totally unwilling to share what I learned about this technology due to being shunned by the hho community and as a result of this poor treatment I made the choice to share no more past just the raw science behind this technology. The raw science is posted in this thread but if this site shuts down it will take that information with it and as of right now I am not allowed to post on any other forum concerning concepts such at these. You don't even have to go far to see how I am treated poorly by others because they wish to make a name for themselves or something telling me I don't know what water is, lol, what a joke. So as I result I simply refuse to let these people use my brain power to line their pockets with gold or move to tell folks that they solved this technology totally stealing what I would have shared with them as if they figured things out.


I know you didn't come here to hear this but it is what it is at this point as I have thrown in the towel on anyone else actually moving to do what it takes to solve this technology, stay for a small handful of people. I know this makes me seem as if I am a horrible man but I am not as I just want the credit I am due for all of my years of studying this technology to get at the science behind the patents. I have already had many of my posting done on other forums stolen from me where the thief pawned off what they stole as their own taking what I wrote word for word but removing my name from what the stole. It's sad to see things like this happen but I'm powerless to stop them from stealing from me unless I simply stop sharing. Trust me these people have shown me their hand and it's all bad.


Well, I have to run for now, but will come back to talk about this a bit more. Just know I require folks to do their own work as they make use of the science I shared openly with the whole world.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56

Dog-One

Dear Ed,

Here's a blast from the past for you.

Spent more than a month decoding circuits, patents and troves of estate images to develop
this.  Made dozens of circuit boards and mailed them for free all over the world and yet,
you're still the only one working on this technology.  Some things do make me sad.

alan

Quote from: Dog-One on February 07, 2023, 03:36:11 AM
Dear Ed,

Here's a blast from the past for you.

Spent more than a month decoding circuits, patents and troves of estate images to develop
this.  Made dozens of circuit boards and mailed them for free all over the world and yet,
you're still the only one working on this technology.  Some things do make me sad.
Nice build. But I take that's a gated 12V pulser, that's just one functional block in the system. The VIC imitates the pre-lightning conditions without the discharge. An ideal VIC with the load connected has on the output 0 ampere and infinite voltage.

Dog-One

Quote from: alan on February 07, 2023, 06:48:33 AM
Nice build. But I take that's a gated 12V pulser, that's just one functional block in the system. The VIC imitates the pre-lightning conditions without the discharge. An ideal VIC with the load connected has on the output 0 ampere and infinite voltage.

This particular circuit pings the primary and with its PLL and high frequency CT hunts for the frequency doubling resonance and locks to that.  I never had a decent WFC to test it with, but my VIC was fairly close.  At the time I built it, it was pretty close to state-of-the-art.  If I would have wound the VIC with enameled resistive wire and had a WFC with the correct tube count and dimensions, I may have seen something, don't know.  My goal building it was to pull back from using a digital, processor controlled driver and have something analog that was still automatic and self tuning.  It was made clear to me even way back then that the water used and the temperature, changes the resonant frequencies.  So I was hoping to have a board for the ones that had a proper VIC and WFC, they could connect this driver, power on and produce water fuel without any other screwing around.  And being fully analog, this has infinite frequency resolution, so if you need frequency precision to five decimals places, you've got it, whereas on the digital side of the house, you may end up bouncing right over the exact frequency you need and never actually hit the sweet spot.  Only later did I discover it might be necessary to have modulation on top of a carrier signal to make this work to its full potential.

Anyway, my point was, a lot of us tried our hand at this technology, but only Ed kept after it.  He's tenacious.   :)

alan

Interesting, did you document the results? Do you still have the schematic of the circuit?