Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[retrod]

All we lives close to magnetic anomaly see

Curry-grid :

http://abeiez-tachyon.com/en/fs.htm?erd4.htm

Hartmann-grid:

http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/14%20Unhealthy%20Earth%20Energies,%20The%20Hartmann%20Net%20and%20Curry%20Gri.html

with ortogonal magnet configuration my be there is an "Hamel" effect like this:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0710/0710.1565v2.pdf

Perhaps Mylow lives close to, or in the very same Chicago apartment where the GE color TV exploded in the mid sixties. This was the event SM's boss investigated, and led to eventual development of the TPU. That may explain a local magnetic anomaly assisting the wheel.

RD

[Grimer]

I am reminded of the old saw: "It's all over except the shouting" . But that's not correct either, since we still have  Replicators out there who are hopefully not letting current events and others' opinions stop them from furthering the cause of Science... As they really are doing here no matter what their results show in the end.

30 years is way too long to wait to get any answers regarding Howard Johnson's work!


So we are left with the following possibilities for the ending to this saga (imo):


I. "MYLOW Faked It".

  I. A. He really doesn't "exist" in the normal sense and was part of a clever, long term disinfo scam to discredit F-E,
         Open Source, and Sterling Allen in particular, who is a high-profile target (perpetrated by agents unknown).
         This episode can then be later used to discredit all claims in the future (correct or not), and most importantly,
         put a "chill" on the F-E & O.S. movement to slow future Open Source research altogether.

  I. B. He is a "real person" who did this independently to either gain attention for himself, or HJ magnet motors (lol
         although one must wonder how scamming could help such a cause very much).

  I. C. He is "real" and independent but was deluded with his results, and justified his scam by thinking he or a
         Replicator who was inspired by his videos would eventually get it to work (in this case, it is an argument for
         why these replication attempts should not be abandoned yet; because they may still bear fruit... Possibly in
         very unexpected ways).

  I. D. Another reason not listed yet.


II. "MYLOW did not fake it".

  II. A. Everything is as claimed; up until the time he declared it a fake (presumably because of the pressure he was
          under and mentally unprepared for, and decided to emulate what Mr. Al Witherspoon said Howard Johnson
          did in his recent interview with Sterling Allen on Peswiki radio (... Mr. Witherspoon stated HJ just allowed his
          claims to be debunked without reply on purpose, for some unstated specific reason).

  II. B. MYLOW was directly and illegally pressured by outside forces to stop research (...more than he stated even),
          and close down interest by "agents unknown"... Which he then did by making a deliberately less than
          satisfactory last video, and then finally making the "fake" You-Tube statement and private messages (thus
          making an error by revealing his I.P. Address). 

  II. C. The device and tests were "real" but his later claims of suppressions were not. When he realized he made a
          mistake and had compromised his integrity with the paranoid "MIB"-type comments, he stopped the project.

  II. D. Another yet unknown reason.


Things in life are not always "Black and White": My experience is they usually come in 256 shades of gray

That's a very good summary of the possibilities. Well done. I go for:

B. MYLOW was directly and illegally pressured by outside forces to stop research (...more than he stated even),
          and close down interest by "agents unknown"...  

[plengo]

I know it has been said already BUT a picture is worth a 1000 words:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=rW14umBA1sQ

[canam101]

I don't know why people are getting upset. Even if mylow is faking, it is a good lesson to people not to believe in OU based on little or no evidence.

Look at Alsetalokin's 'whipmag'. Al faked it and got people to spend a lot of time and money on it, and he is still a well-respected member of the Steorn forum and the fizzx.com forum.

There are even people still trying to replicate his fake OU machine. He is more articulate than mylow, but that's about the only difference.

So give mylow a break: thank him for teaching us not to get too enthusiastic about extraordinary claims without more evidence than he supplied.

[wattsup]

Long post - it's Sunday so let's relax.

@LightRider

We will dub you "Mr. Back-up". Good work.

@k4zep

Regarding your post here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.msg168436#msg168436
About the rotor pull, I know about all the finer aspects of magnet verification but you could not expect anything more from Mylow then just lift some metal and weight it. If he came back and said I have a batch of iron washers and can only lift 1/2 pound, that means one thing, but if he says I am using iron washers and have lifted 10 pounds, that is a totally different thing. Now if we knew the approximate washer specs, then builders can simply do the same test with their rotor and at least have a rough idea on where they are placed on a scale from 1 to 14 where 7 would be considered a Mylow rotor. Just like a pH scale.

@0c

Hey, I'm new at this moderator stuff. Plus I need time to play with my projects.

@Grimer

I removed the last sentence of your post located here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.msg168554#msg168554
Sorry but members should refrain from such statements.

@all

Like I said, you see something and if it does not meet your own criteria then the fault has to be the device or the person. You cannot accept the fact that the magnets know more then you do about magnetism. lol

I'll explain again.

Is Mylows device arranged in a perfectly symmetric design. No.
Does constant speed denote a form of symmetry. Yes.
So how can you expect something that is not symmetric to have a symmetric or constant speed. lol

Do you guys know what is going on between those magnets? No.
If you don't know what is going on between those magnets, how can you purport that what is going on is not real. You can always have concerns, but you can not say it is not real.

This is the deal. Such a system will work only when all the conditions for it to work are readily available around the effect required. It is not far from impossible to consider that the ideal condition lies between 100 or 500 non ideal conditions even when all the right components are in the vicinity of the effect. (That is where I suspect most go wrong and give up not realizing they may be but millimeters away from success.) It is also possible that the ideal condition once found will also be in a fine tuned range of more or less favorable nuances that will make the wheel turn but in a different overall cadence.

All matter, including fields need time to interact. As the speed increases this decreases the interact time that slows the speed and as the speed slows down, this increases the interact time that increases speed. When the interact time is both perfect and constant, then one would expect constant speed. Mylow can rebuild his wheel but it does not mean it will turn the same way. Why should it if all the components are not in their exact same position????????

Last point on magnets. Just because you have 55 identical magnets, it does not mean you have the same flux on each magnet and it does not mean they all have identical directionality even if one side is north and the other side is south. Some poles could lean more to the back or the front of the magnet hence off center and this could change things when you have a linear set of magnets and you are riding on the outer fields. I found that out checking 120 neo magnets on my wheel. Some are just totally out of whack so this may be expected with all types of magnets when working with a good quantity. All productions will have duds and each magnet should be verified for their field length. One way to do this is place the compass the furthest away that the magnet can effect its north/south point. Then keep the compass there and place an X at the magnet location. Then place the next magnet on the X and check it and so on. With two compasses you can check the shorter horizontal then place the magnet on its side to check the vertical field. It is tedious work but wasting time with a dud magnet is even more tedious. I think someone should ask a magnet manufacturer what the percentage of bad magnets is out of 1000.

So actually, if a working Mylow wheel is taken apart, to make it work again all the pieces would have to go back to where they were, each magnet would have to be numbered, each position scribed before removal to then put Humpty Dumpty, oh sorry wrong subject, a Mylow Wheel back together again. lol

What most guys on this board try to do before shouting fake, fake, is ask the questions, do the work, learn the territory and "hopefully" our efforts will produce the desired outcome. My experience with OU endeavors (as with many other members) has given me (I find at least) a good grasp on most aspects of the OU activity, enough to make my own clarified decision on if I should partake or not in a project. We do nto need anyone nagging us that we are wasting our time. because regardless if we are successful or not, WE NEVER LOSE BECAUSE WE LEARN ALL THE WAY, so who cares. Something we learn here may be used in a totally different device and make that one work. I always wanted to have such a wheel to play with anyways. Magnets, coils, the possibilities are endless. I have a few posted drawings on some wheels that I can now tests. So no, this project is not dead, far from it and I'll see you builders on the other thread and keep this one to shoot the breeze.