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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: X00013 on May 05, 2009, 06:48:24 PM
@TK, Have you any luck with dc motor mags ( bannana flavored) with correct pole position? Thanx, I would love a video!

No offense, X, but since I'm being flamed on this thread and censored on others, I am no longer inclined to share my findings here in public. You can PM me at one place or another, and I'll gladly share with you, X, what I know about those magnets.
I also can tell you some things about aluminum alloys. Here's one for free: Mylow's disk is very unlikely to be al-clad, as Sterling said it was early on. For one thing, alclad is hard to find that thick; it is usually used as aircraft (or trailer) skin and rarely is found thicker than 0.125".  Mylow's disk is far more likely to be 6061 alloy, as this is the common "aircraft structural" grade for ordinary structural components. There are other "aircraft grade" aluminum alloys as well but they are less common, more costly, and more difficult to work. How to tell if the provenance isn't known? An expert machinist can tell from how it machines, but the right way to do it is with a hardness tester. Cheap commercial grades of aluminum (pizza pans, etc.) are also very soft but have much lower tensile strength than does 6061-T6, which is nearly as strong as steel. Alclad can be instantly identified by its extremely soft surface layer of (nearly) pure aluminum--you can just about scratch it with a fingernail.

Or perhaps you can ask "starcruiser", I'm sure he can tell you just what you've got, and what to do with it.


tournamentdan

Quote from: lumen on May 05, 2009, 06:38:49 PM
If you take a large 3" diameter neo magnet and drop it flat onto a 1" thick aluminum plate, it will land softly. This is because the field increasing rapidly causes currents in the plate that create a field in the opposite direction. Now if you let the magnet sit on the plate and try to remove it rapidly, it will again resist the collapsing field in the same manner. This is actually a delay to the field passing through the plate in either direction. If the magnet just sets there the field will be just as strong as usual since the aluminum plate only affects a changing field.

I am convinced that it would not run without the aluminum plate.
Here is a video to show you what your so called delay will do.          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlnzhItJhZw
I'll see your theory, and raise you mine!!!

lumen

So you would think, but the stator field never reaches the aluminum plate because the field is repelled or attracted by the rotor magnets before it reaches the plate.
Except for the pole of the rotor magnets resting on the plate which passes through the plate. Funny how again this is the field that is delayed or affected by the plate. This is only affected during the rapid change caused by the short distance in the stator magnet poles.

The field is then reset through the aluminum plate by the rotor magnets when they are far from the stator or approaching or leaving.


TinselKoala

Quote from: tournamentdan on May 05, 2009, 07:14:10 PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This is crazy the delay that you are referring to is called eddy currents. The aluminum will not be affected be the rotor magnets because they are stationary on the plate, HOWEVER THE ALUMINUM WILL BE AFFECTED BY EDDY CURRENTS FROM THE STATOR MAGNET WHICH WILL SLOW AND STOP THE MOTOR.

You can tell 'em and tell 'em, even take instrumental data on an exact replica of Mylow's rig and post the videos showing a 40 percent DECREASE in rundown times caused by the mere addition of a single Mylow stator magnet, you can put up pictures of graphs showing the drag from even a weak magnet 3 inches above the disk, and still, folks will try to tell you that eddys are driving the disk rather than retarding it.
I think even the ROTOR magnets might actually retard the motion of the disk through some weird homopolar eddy effect. But I only have a small amount of data on that so I'm not sure yet.
There is suppression all right. Suppression of the TRUTH.

lumen

QuoteHere is a video to show you what your so called delay will do.          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlnzhItJhZw

Sure, I've done several tests like this myself and can tell you that if you put a magnet under that aluminum plate, that pendulum will never see that aluminum plate. The stationary field holds the moving field from even reaching the aluminum.

So keep going!