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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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tournamentdan

Quote from: lumen on May 05, 2009, 09:39:50 PM
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It also would be why it can only achieve a limited RPM. If the field is stronger the delay would be shorter and the RPM higher. Or a thinner plate may cause higher RPM but reducing the field delay may bring back the natural PID effect of magnets and not work at all.


Huh?  A magnet motor will have a limited RPM because there is no fluctuation in the magnetic flux strength. A magnet will have only one strength and so it can only push a nother magnet away at one speed,that speed will also be determined by the weight of the mass that is you are moving.  Listen you say that the rotor magnets are blocking the eddy currents from the stator mag because they are stronger, which I may agree with that. It all depends on the strength of rotor mags and how fast aluminum is moving, but you can not argue that the two spaces where there is no magnets on the plate( in between the groups of magnets) is being blocked from the stator magnet. So twice per revolution the plate will have a brake affect and slow or stop, and then if it worked it would start then stop start then stop.
I'll see your theory, and raise you mine!!!

pinestone

Quote from: tournamentdan on May 06, 2009, 10:34:57 AM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Huh?  A magnet motor will have a limited RPM because there is no fluctuation in the magnetic flux strength. A magnet will have only one strength and so it can only push a nother magnet away at one speed,that speed will also be determined by the weight of the mass that is you are moving.  Listen you say that the rotor magnets are blocking the eddy currents from the stator mag because they are stronger, which I may agree with that. It all depends on the strength of rotor mags and how fast aluminum is moving, but you can not argue that the two spaces where there is no magnets on the plate( in between the groups of magnets) is being blocked from the stator magnet. So twice per revolution the plate will have a brake affect and slow or stop, and then if it worked it would start then stop start then stop.

Mylow's rotor resembles a homopolar motor on a basic level.

All of the magnets poles are facing the same direction and have the same polarity. If you examine Faraday's Paradox-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_Paradox

and read down to the paragraph that attempts to explain this phenomenon in modern terms...

"All electrons that move in a magnetic field experience a Lorentz force of F = v × B, where v is the velocity of the electrons. This force is perpendicular to both the velocity of the electrons, which is in the plane of the disc, and to the magnetic field, which is normal (surface normal) to the disc. An electron at rest in the frame of the disc moves circularly with the disc relative to the B-field, and so experiences a radial Lorentz force. In Figure 1 this force (on a positive charge, not an electron) is outward toward the rim according to the right-hand rule."

In Mylow's experiment, he's using a typical SMOT arrangement of magnets that force the rotor to spin.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMOT

And, according to Lorentz Law, it's a natural tendency for centifugal force to accumulate electrons around the circumference of the spinning disk. Once the disk begins to spin, a potential is developed between the center and the outer edge of the rotor. This potential may be directly responsible for the 'wave' we've seen with Mylows iron filings and viewing film experiments that he published on youtube.

Hey, it's just another theory...

(sorry for all the edits, but I like to be as accurate as I can)

ellubpt

The last two videos with the glass table top where the motor was shown running.

In one video we hear a clicking sound which is caused by the stator magnet mounts bumping the stator main bar. In the next video , he says this fixed by sticking toothpicks in there.

Fine.

Now, the sound , caused by the motion of the stators is a reaction to the incoming "Repelling field" = if it Wasn't repelling, there would be NO force acting on the stator.

1. This sound happened every time a revolution was made, which means there was a moment of repelling force between the stator magnets and the rotor disk on every revolution.

2. In spite of this happening, the rotor never reacts.
No cogging, smooth even rotation all around.

Something HAS to give. I can hear the stator reacting (until it was shimmed) and according to my buddy Newton, there has to be an equal and opposite force being applied against the rotor. Right?

So wouldn't this "friction" eventually cause the rotor to slow or stop, as it does all of my replication attempts? Or at least cog, hesitate or react in some way?

The force is not "overcome" because proof of it exists by the noise from the stator, so it is happening, but, then one may ask, why no reaction from the rotor?

lumen

Maybe the stator magnet was clicking every time it was trying to rotate from the push on one pole and the pull on the other end?
One can always find reasons why it does not work. Can you even think of one reason or principal that coud cause it to work?

Think positive, whats the worst that could happen?

johnfarmingdale


  Great job MyLow, that was a great video you showed everyone,
  Thanks for sharing   :o

  Who is replicating MyLow's newest creation? (with the bar magnets)

  anybody if so what are the links?  (videos, information, etc..)
                                           
                                                        Thanks