Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Mr. M]

You going to pay for the materials?

No, I'm not...

I've claimed I'm on the fence and I've claimed you and the other sceptics are doing a hell of a lot of pointless gum flapping and I can prove that you're all doing a lot of pointless gum flapping and you've not produced a string of videos because your gum flapping is in this thread and the videos don't exist.  I can also prove I'm on the fence because I'm sat here... Waiting.

If you want people to believe it's fake, and I can see no other reason that you and the other sceptics would be so intent on slagging this guy off, then prove it's a fake by faking it and reproducing the string of videos Mylow has created. I'm not paying for you to do that just like I didn't pay Mylow... Not my problem.


It's like a kid standing in front of a magician telling all the other kids the trick is a fake and the magician is sat there safe in the knowledge that even though the kid is right he's never going to be able to prove it to the other kids because he can't do the trick so he's always going to be able to say it's magic and have the majority of them think it's magic... Don't read more in to this than I intend, I'm not saying we're all kids and he's whatever, it's just an analogy to try and get my point across and I know it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.


Bobbotov, I completely agree with you in that it proves it can be faked, not that it is a fake but I'm saying that for me (and possibly a lot of other people on the fence) that it would be enough to tip me over.

Just like a kid watching a magician if another kid showed me the exact same trick I'm not going to believe it's magic and the magician would be just another bloke in a funny hat.

[Yucca]

This latest episode occurred because someone took it upon themselves to post a video on youtube showing the supposed 'conclusive proof it's a fake' graphs and charts. Mylow managed to stop reading this forum, so what do they do? Bring it over to youtube. He's an emotional guy, it was not a cool thing to do imho.

P.S. Yes, it would be nice if it had 3rd party validation already, yes it's gone on a long time.

Yes he is an emotional guy, god bless him. And that's why he owes it to himself to calm his stormy waters by allowing 3rd party validation. It's so simple, he'll sleep so much more soundly when his emotions are settled. Please Mylow, fedex a runner to stefan. I'll pay for first class fedex insured speical delivery there and back, just put a runner in a good big corrugated box with plenty of bubblewrap round everything. Please for the sake of Howard Johnson and mother earth, please do it.

[RunningBare]

Tinsel Koala already answered, so I can save my breath on this one.

No, I'm not...

I've claimed I'm on the fence and I've claimed you and the other sceptics are doing a hell of a lot of pointless gum flapping

[TinselKoala]

I agree with you that in Mylow's case I think it more likely that an electric motor was used either as a 'switched' motorised stub axle or friction drive on the rotor disk. However, I do think it possible that a small low resistance pulse motor coil could drive the rotor with the coil installed in an optimum position within the vertical section of the stator support arm. Only the coil is needed in this position; the pulse circuitry and battery could be placed anywhere else withing the stator arm support section. I must admit that I have not carefully studied the views of the rotor support arm when he picks it up, so I made an assumption that it was a full square section. Have you managed to observe the full channel section including the uprights?

Hoppy

Hoppy

He shows the channel in one of the vids but as usual it's not a complete or unambiguous view. And of course there could be two mounts. And then there's the different mount used in the YnYng video. There's still the problem of feed wires and that pesky reaction force that moves only the rotor disk, not the stator mount.
I think there are at least 3 methods that have not been ruled out by data. One is your suggestion, but it's hanging by a thread. The other is mine, the motorized stub axle ringer--also hanging by a thread, but perhaps a bit thicker one. A third is pneumatic.

ClickClick. Now it's ok to let go, Tony. Go Ahead, it's OK. Let go. Let it GO...
(my paraphrase of the last dialog on the Tony vid...think about it....)

[Yucca]

but far easier than setting up a Zinsser kinetobaric experiment, for example.

lol sounds cool! googling now...