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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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starcruiser

I wonder, for what it is worth, if the orientation of the magnets are such that the sticky spot is reduced due to the null field point alignment of the rotor magnets to the lower edge of the stator magnet? Also the induced spin of the fields and how they are interacting I am sure plays a part.

I am thinking if the above is the case the stronger NEO's may need more space, but a test of this should be completed.

I would like to know if the weight of the parts is the same as the assembled unit. I am wondering if the magnetic fields and the Aluminum are altering the local gravity at all.
Regards,

Carl

mscoffman

Quote from: sterlinga on March 25, 2009, 02:27:14 AM

What this demonstrates in my opinion, is that
- the rotation speed is proportional to the strength of the magnet.

Mylobro said he was astonished to see something that defied everything
he had learned in school about magnetism.

Sterling

Most scientists would conclude that this is a very adequate proof level validity
that the energy to run the motor is functionally linked to the field strength
of the drive magnet. In other words magnetic energy from the magnet is being
used to run the motor - which would not then be OU.

But we can't tell whether there may not be other sources of energy running the motor
as well. Only, that other energy would probably be masked by energy from the discharging
magnet. The people that recommend keeping the aluminum disk and measuring it's
temperature are seeing and understanding this.

In addition to qualitative proofs there are also quantitative ones. If we admit that the
size and mass of the drive magnet is similar to a standard "C" size battery, then we
would not be far off estimating that the energy storage density of the magnet and
a C cell carbon composite battery may be similar. I would not see any problem having
a high bearing efficiency unloaded motor run for 12 hours from a standard "C" cell.

---

If bill's motor had an aluminum disk rather than a wood one, one could see that increasing the
rotational momentum and giving the disk a "spin" would allow multiple turns of the
neo populated rotor. The key then is whether there is any energy gain around one turn
of the rotor because if the sticky spot results in a loss then the wheel is only going to
slow down over time. One could have the drive magnet get less powerful and turning would
continue but eventually the rotor would slow down to a stop as the drive magnet discharged.
The key to this is to finding whether other sources of energy are helping the rotor to spin,
and forcing the motor to run while not discharging the magnet.

So one needs to be careful that the common understanding of what is happening does not
override finding the scientifically significant results.

:S:MarkSCoffman

johnfarmingdale



  If someone has alot of hard drive magnets stack a set of 6 or 7 of them for the stator and use the other ones for a rotor mags, only If powerful magnet work in this situation, they may be too powerful and not the right shape.
     
     We need verification on MyLows creation. ( Open mind with Open Source )

wattsup

Regarding my previous post of Alternative #1, I have done some tests with neos and iron stock metal and it will not be good as drawn simply because each magnet will have it opposite polarity immediately after it which will then be on the wrong side.

This will not work with only one magnet or with two magnets separated by iron. But do this. Take a neo and stick a long bolt on the north and a bolt on the south. Then use your compass to see what happens at the bolt ends. lol   That's it. As shown in my next drawing that will now be my build spec. One neo magnet per rotor or stator should give about the same result and not be subjected to field losses. The field loss is what is concerning me the most. Also, with neos embedded into the iron stock, I imagine the distance between the rotor and stator will still have to be greater then what Mylow requires given his very weak magnets.

Now as for Mylow's wheel slowing down and not turning at the same revolution, etc., etc., guys please cut it out already. We clearly have seen with a forum member mapping of the rotor magnet degrees that there is nothing in Mylows' build that could be construed as PERFECTLY SYMMETRIC. So if the build is not symmetric, then why do you expect its actual revolutions to be any more symmetric. Them magnets are not stupid. They react to what there is and not what you wish there is. lol

As for all your paranoia you are seeing in every word, action, movement, now even with his brother, this is totally disingenuous and actually rather insulting to our intelligence. Some of you guys should simply take a break if you have nothing more then this low level blah-blah that is taking up posts in this thread for nothing. Geez. Sorry for being so blunt but there is a limit.

dixiepnum

@sterlinga

Sterling,

what's the status of the project? Is today a vacation day for the M-Brothers to recuperate?

Atrophy is starting to kick in....need some fresh blood!