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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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i_ron

Quote from: wattsup on March 25, 2009, 01:39:56 PM
Regarding my previous post of Alternative #1, I have done some tests with neos and iron stock metal and it will not be good as drawn simply because each magnet will have it opposite polarity immediately after it which will then be on the wrong side.

This will not work with only one magnet or with two magnets separated by iron. But do this. Take a neo and stick a long bolt on the north and a bolt on the south. Then use your compass to see what happens at the bolt ends. lol   That's it. As shown in my next drawing that will now be my build spec. One neo magnet per rotor or stator should give about the same result and not be subjected to field losses. The field loss is what is concerning me the most. Also, with neos embedded into the iron stock, I imagine the distance between the rotor and stator will still have to be greater then what Mylow requires given his very weak magnets.

Now as for Mylow's wheel slowing down and not turning at the same revolution, etc., etc., guys please cut it out already. We clearly have seen with a forum member mapping of the rotor magnet degrees that there is nothing in Mylows' build that could be construed as PERFECTLY SYMMETRIC. So if the build is not symmetric, then why do you expect its actual revolutions to be any more symmetric. Them magnets are not stupid. They react to what there is and not what you wish there is. lol
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wattsup,

A great idea, one I have been kicking around. But I would think sinking the neo into a pocket will
have a dead short around the magnet and nothing will reach the "bolt" ends. The iron neo combo
needs to be in three pieces, I would think.Harder to make and mount but hot glue is handy at times like this.

Ron





mikestocks2006

Quote from: sterlinga on March 25, 2009, 02:17:17 PM
Joel Garbon, Jeane Manning and myself are going to be giving three presentations in the San Francisco, Silicon Valley areas.

The audiences will be mainly ivy leaguers.  The topic is "Breakthrough Power - Embracing the New Energy Frontier"
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Events:Breakthrough_Power_March_30_-_April_2%2C_2009

It would be so sweet if we could have a working replica of the Mylow magnet motor to plunk down on the table and have running during the duration of the presentation.  They could form a line and go and look at it one at a time.  That certainly would turn some heads.

I was hoping we at PES Network would be able to get one built in time, but with the busy schedule of Doug Furr, and the difficulty in sourcing the rotor magnets, we probably won't have something for less than 10 days from now.  (Have any of you found rotor channel magnets yet?)

Perhaps one of you who gets a working replica might be willing to ship it off to meet us in California.

Its time for breakthrough free energy to shine.  Don't you think?

Sterling

Hi Allan,
Maybe the best way to have a working unit out there, is to have the iron stator from Mylows setup remagnetized (both of them) I think he had said there are 2.
and then take that original motor to the show and have the proof of concept right there, instead of waiting for sourcing and replications building.

Thanks for yours and Mylow's efforts,
Mike

PaulLowrance

Quote from: mscoffman on March 25, 2009, 01:05:16 PM

Quote from: sterlinga
What this demonstrates in my opinion, is that
- the rotation speed is proportional to the strength of the magnet.

Mylobro said he was astonished to see something that defied everything
he had learned in school about magnetism.

Sterling

Most scientists would conclude that this is a very adequate proof level validity
that the energy to run the motor is functionally linked to the field strength
of the drive magnet. In other words magnetic energy from the magnet is being
used to run the motor - which would not then be OU.

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So one needs to be careful that the common understanding of what is happening does not
override finding the scientifically significant results.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Indeed. Do you have any connections to notable scientists, perhaps even a University physics professor, that would be interested in testing this? So far the machine has always demagnetized the PM's. Initial very rough estimates of the energy contained in the single stator PM comes to a few joules. The power required to maintain the low rpm is extremely small. I recall years ago calculating the energy required to maintain a slow spinning bicycle front wheel was ridiculously low. Sorry, don't recall the exact numbers, just the outcome. Also, IMO all 63 of the Alnico PM's are degaussing, but at a slower rate than the stator. These are simple measurements a University physics professor would measure so we can once and for all determine if it's legit or not.

PL

CLaNZeR

Quote from: sterlinga on March 25, 2009, 02:17:17 PM
I was hoping we at PES Network would be able to get one built in time, but with the busy schedule of Doug Furr, and the difficulty in sourcing the rotor magnets, we probably won't have something for less than 10 days from now.  (Have any of you found rotor channel magnets yet?)

Perhaps one of you who gets a working replica might be willing to ship it off to meet us in California.


Well I have now had confirmation after paying a bit extra that my Rotor magnets (60 of them!) will be with me for the weekend.
I will give out the details so others can purchase them once I am happy that they are as close to Mylos that I could get.

My small CNC Desktop machine max's out at 250mm bed size so no good for cutting the Aluminium Disk I need. My big 600mm * 600mm CNC machine is still half built in the corner of the workshop, so that will be no good :(

But a last minute email came in from a macheing shop with a reasonable price for a 45CM disk and now trying to get that delivered for the weekend.

As a back up I have got a 500mm x 500mm sheet again on route to my place and will try and Cut using a Router mounted on a arm and bearing, the same way I cut my big wooden Rotors, but it is gonna be tricky dropping the height bit by bit as it does a full 360 degree cut though  LOL
So if you do not hear off me after this weekend, you know I cannot type as have probably lost all my fingers  :P

I have some other magnets coming for the Stator/Armature setup, but again want to try a few different things and will try as hard as I can to keep the Alnico away from the NEO's for now :)

I am not going to make a big bearing mount like Mylo's and simply will use some smaller bearings I already have.

So IF it all turns up at the house by this weekend and IF it does run (Not holding breath!), I will build a second one and you are more than welcome to have it Sterling. Dunno if 10 days will be long enough though as I only get back home at the weekends :(

Cheers

Sean.
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PaulLowrance

Quote from: Omnibus on March 25, 2009, 02:25:43 PMDon't jump the gun @sterlinga. With this you're doing more harm than good to the free energy movement.

It's refreshing to see someone see the obvious. Sorry, no offense to Sterling.

Also, if it's verified by the scientific community, then it will be a lot easier to get media recognition.

PL