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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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wattsup

I think the video is very interesting and the effect is really great if it is real. Now I know he just gave some dimensions etc but here are the main problems I have before jumping on any bandwagon.

First, all throughout the video he is talking and talking all the time. During all of 9 or so minutes, there is not at least 10 seconds where he stops talking and this makes it difficult for us to try and listen to the device for any tell tale electrical drive system. There are also some cars and/or trucks driving outside and it just so happened that two of the times he started the wheel, the noise from a truck or whatever is overly heard and this causes some suspicion. Like, could there be a stepper motor on a centrifugal clutch inside the steel base. Also, I heard twice two clicking sounds as if a switch could have been opened then closed.

The base is solid steel? Or, it could be a motor housing as stated above. That's a concern. I think he does not need all that metal mass in the base if it is only to align a wheel support bearing. An open tripod base should be good enough with a bearing on the top supporting the wheel. If he had such a tripod and can sow the open nature of it as a base, it will increase the video credibility tenfold.

If he in fact is showing something that is genuinely real, showing the north south relationships in the device teaches us some new things that could be applied in other ways and that's great.

Omnibus

wattsup. again, why would he do that? What's in it for him to pull such scam on us? His five minutes of fame maybe or a sinister plot to exhaust the hopes of the community and turn the enthusiasts into an incentive-less, burnt out crowd of losers (as seems to be the goal of @alsetalokin's activity). What's your take on that?

sterlinga

Quote from: wattsup on March 19, 2009, 10:09:00 AM
...throughout the video he is talking and talking all the time. During all of 9 or so minutes, there is not at least 10 seconds where he stops talking and this makes it difficult for us to try and listen to the device for any tell tale electrical drive system. There are also some cars and/or trucks driving outside and it just so happened that two of the times he started the wheel, the noise from a truck or whatever is overly heard and this causes some suspicion. Like, could there be a stepper motor on a centrifugal clutch inside the steel base. Also, I heard twice two clicking sounds as if a switch could have been opened then closed.

Last night in my chat with Mylow, we talked about doing a video specifically for the purpose of documenting the audio component of his motor running.

He said it is very quiet.

I suggested that he place his camera on the stator bar, then on the dresser top where the motor is setting, which would amplify any sounds of the motor in motion.
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mscoffman

Hi;

I will summarize what I think I am seeing in his videos;

First the configuration of his magnets are linear magnets arranged in a fan
or duck-foot array at the periphery of the disc and a horseshoe shaped drive
magnet on the supporting beam. Note that he says his periphery magnets are
polarized with one pole face on the backside, meaning that the two pole
pieces have the same magnetization polarity. So the periphery magnets
are *not* horseshoe magnets in the conventional sense.  A partial device
in an of itself should be very easy to replicate and say “yeah or nay” as
to whether any drive force is evident. Naysayers should cease and desist
until we are able to establish whether or not a drive force exists.

Notice that even one of his first videos he uses long liner magnets and he gets
some small amount of drive power . I would be real nice of him to take a standard
small horseshoe magnet and use it in place of his problematic ‘u’ shaped drive
magnet and see if the unit still runs.

Look, In general what he is demonstrating is *not* supposed to work because
“sticky spots” should form in the *whole array* on the disc. One question is
whether the aluminum disk and the aluminum cross bar is affecting the
units operation. Perhaps the low power magnetics and the aluminum disk
are not allowing sticky spots to fully form.

One thing that is going to be required in a general is to use fastener hardware
and frames around the magnets so that one can swap magnets around on the
disc and between units and the ability to substitute standard magnetics to try
to use new standardly available more powerful neodymium/boron magnets
in place of his specialized magnetics.

It should be possible to use a VCR tape capstan head motor as a bearing to support the
aluminum disc. It should also be possible to glue two cube magnets to a smaller
version of a Radioshack “3/4 inch magnet to get a duplicate of the periphery magnets
but in neodymium strength.

:S:MarkSCoffman



Goat

Quote from: sterlinga on March 19, 2009, 03:16:54 AM

I asked him if he is sure that the rotor and stator magnets he is using are alnico magnets.  He said he is 100% sure, because that is what was on the purchase receipt. 


Hi All

I remembered hearing Mylow describe in his video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqavYG6beSo that the U shaped Stator magnet was just a regular Iron magnet, I checked it again and at 5:13 he did say this so I thought I'd bring it up in case it's relevant to replications.

Regards,
Paul