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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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hansvonlieven

G"day Paul,

Consider the following scenario. All rotor magnets are ceramic or neo's, the stator magnets are Alnico. Would the device still work then, considering that the stator PM would deplete?

Assuming that it does, would the energy in the rotating disk be enough to re-magnetise the stator when it becomes necessary?

Interesting questions.

Incidentally, congratulations on a very good analysis.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

X00013

@Mylow,  I made the comment " I know where you live, just kidding" in one of my posts. I was refering to your location in Chicago,  if you took this as a threat to you and your family, I apologize as a husband and father.

PaulLowrance

Hello Hans,

Good question. I don't really know for certain because as far as I'm aware this is an unknown effect (converting magnetized PM energy to mechanical).  Mylow has confirmed that it works if the stator is hard steel and rotors are alnico. Alnico could outlast hard steel, but it depends on the type of hard steel since they greatly vary with material.

My best guess is that it could work if rotor PM's are ceramic and stator is hard steel.

FEMM is a 2D program, and cannot correctly simulate mylows exact design. All I did was to appreciably confirm the *fundamental* effect in FEMM. Mylow shows the hard steel stator slowly degausses, so I based such confirmation on that assumption.

IMO this effect could be difficult to get the two PM's oriented and separated just correct. If the PM's are two close, then it's possible the strong PM will only change the orientation of the hard steel, not degauss it. If it's too far away, then the effect may be too weak to overcome the bearing friction.

If mylow's machine is legit, then my congrats to him regardless because I've never heard of this effect before, but in theory it does appear to work.

PL

PaulLowrance

Here's a snapshot of a possible cheap alternative to use square ceramic PM's instead of horseshoe PM's. It's a sideshot. The hard steel in the snapshot would be the same horseshoe as in mylow's device. I'm wondering if this effect works best if the hardened steel is grain oriented longitudinally annealed.

PL

X00013

Quote from: PaulLowrance on March 22, 2009, 12:52:04 AM
Hello Hans,

Good question. I don't really know for certain because as far as I'm aware this is an unknown effect (converting magnetized PM energy to mechanical).  Mylow has confirmed that it works if the stator is hard steel and rotors are alnico. Alnico could outlast hard steel, but it depends on the type of hard steel since they greatly vary with material.

My best guess is that it could work if rotor PM's are ceramic and stator is hard steel.

FEMM is a 2D program, and cannot correctly simulate mylows exact design. All I did was to appreciably confirm the *fundamental* effect in FEMM. Mylow shows the hard steel stator slowly degausses, so I based such confirmation on that assumption.

IMO this effect could be difficult to get the two PM's oriented and separated just correct. If the PM's are two close, then it's possible the strong PM will only change the orientation of the hard steel, not degauss it. If it's too far away, then the effect may be too weak to overcome the bearing friction.

If mylow's machine is legit, then my congrats to him regardless because I've never heard of this effect before, but in theory it does appear to work.

PL



I agree,  Hence the need to observe the device and take samples from the stator to have the metal content analyzed. Not only just that, but everything!, I want to dup this, but I dont even know what grade Aluminum he used, 6061, 7075, etc, etc, Rotor mags? made China, US? Whats the compound? Gauss?, it's like WTF, without a visit, it cant be cloned. I'll try anyhow.