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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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nyctuber

Quote from: wattsup on March 30, 2009, 11:05:52 PM
We had already noticed the winding sound that was also mixed in with the cars and trucks passing by Mylows place while he made that video. We requested that he show the base being taken apart and he did most graciously just to cover all the bases. At this point there is absolutely no basis for any inferences to fakery and any such allusion is purely coming from guys that have not either read this thread, which is long because of all the unnecessary crap or just can't understand that a wheel that made as many turns as Mylows already did is more then enough to show it is not a slated disk or any other form of trickery. The guy is as straight and upfront as anyone could be under the circumstances.

@steve_chow

Nice set-up indeed. Don't forget one major thing about the stator. If I remember correctly Mylow said the stator has to be wide enough to cover two rotors plus two spaces in between the rotors, so the stator is actually riding on two rotors separated by one rotor. If the stator does not work, someone already mentioned a good idea to use two coils that could be mounted on a protractor type angler and by playing with the dc voltage and the angle, this could help find the best stator make-up. If I am mistaken please someone correct me.

Wattsup, I think you're referencing this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnhBevG5Sz8&feature=channel_page in which Mylow discusses rotor spacing in relation to the stator. If I'm seeing it correctly, it looks like the stator is slightly larger than 2 rotors plus the gap between them.

duff

Here's the relationship between the stator & rotor magnets.

hansvonlieven

@ nyctuber,

There is no way that Mylow can satisfy his critics with a video. If that were the case Godzilla would be accepted as real. It is just too easy to put something convincingly on film.

The only way for him to come out of this a hero is to have a few people duplicate his results or have some experts test his motor. Even the latter has pitfalls since Howard managed to convince the USPTO with a demonstration.

Once some people replicate his motor his critics will fall silent, but that might be easier said than done.

Personally I wish him luck. I hope he succeeds.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

hansvonlieven

G'day all,

Howard Johnson says in his book "The secret world of magnets":

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For generations, physics students and others have been taught about magnets with iron
filings.

It has been the popular belief of almost anyone with a common knowledge of magnetics
that the pattern made by the filings represents the form and the movement of the magnetic fields.

Today, however, it is quite evident that filings do not show magnetic fields as they are, but
that they show what little pieces of magnets do in magnetic fields. The two are about as much
alike as a Venetian blind and a blind Venetian.

The pieces of iron become little magnets that attract to each other, and are not free moving
particles in the magnetic field, and cannot act as a dye to show where the fields are and what they
look like.

These lines of force, that is, the magnetic fields, are much more complex than most minds
would ever conceive. The concept that is about to be introduced here has been verified through
much research, and will be demonstrated by experiments throughout the book.

He then uses modern mapping techniques to show the magnetic fields very different from what physics teaches.

I agree that there is still much to learn there and that Howard might have discovered something important.

However, he draws the wrong conclusions.

When designing a magnet motor his other magnets will behave like the iron filings in spite of Howard's compelling maps. They will not behave like a computer controlled Hall effect detector.

Perhaps what he has discovered is real and will take on importance somewhere down the line in some other field.

What is clear though is that the magnets happily ignore his field lines and do what they have always done, behave more of less like iron filings.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

BEP

Quote from: hansvonlieven on March 31, 2009, 03:59:10 AM
When designing a magnet motor his other magnets will behave like the iron filings in spite of Howard's compelling maps. They will not behave like a computer controlled Hall effect detector.

Perhaps what he has discovered is real and will take on importance somewhere down the line in some other field.

What is clear though is that the magnets happily ignore his field lines and do what they have always done, behave more of less like iron filings.

Hans von Lieven

Agreed, for conventional motor/generator designs.

My first run in with this perception was using iron filings. With a very close look I noticed almost all of them were leaning on one end. This made me understand these 'field lines' were not merely longitudinal lines but had a bit of pitch to them. I think that was in the 70's.

One thing appears common with these PM attempts at OU. The magnets usually have a common perpendicular orientation. With that, my thoughts center on the Bloch wall. The Bloch wall either evaporates or is otherwise not seen when closed magnetic circuits are provided between the poles.

I also find interesting HJ's mention of magnetic bursts. Not long ago magnetic reconnection and the resulting bursts of energy were discovered using satellites. Then there is the coining of the term 'Spintronics' by others with no mention of HJ using the term before them.

It is rather creepy.

I'm hoping I can duplicate this work because I also want a homopolar generator working. Add a shaft and some brushes on the rim and what do you have?