Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[wattsup]

@all

Like I said, people see what they want to see. You see a video of a wheel turning and if it does not turn like you want it too, its a fake. You then find all the reasons to rationalize your opinion. Somebody posted a uTUBE sound analysis saying the Mylow video is uncut. OK this is it. I will be opening a new discussion thread and if anyone goes on that thread with fake shit, they will be erased, end of story. I have had it and so have many many here. Nothing is good enough, so just go somewhere else. Or better still stay here while we leave.

@sterlinga

I need a specific answer regarding the rotor magnet Mylow is using. We know about almost all of his device but the one thing that is missing is KEY. Do I have to repeat this question 50 times. Just take a rotor, lift up the maximum iron possible and weigh it. You want other replications, fine, but the one thing we need to know about the strength on the rotors used by Mylow is not on the table. I know, I know, there is always something else to know, but in my book, there is nothing else to know and/or see. No more videos, no more anything, just get me the pull capacity of his rotors, that's it. Finito. Sorry to be so rough but I just want to stress the fact that this one KEY piece of information will help us more then anything else.

@builders and interested collaborators.

The new thread will be open shortly so I suggest you go there from now on and leave this thread.

Also, please open a new thread as I had instructed before for your own builds and put all your specs in your thread. I will repeat this on the new discussion thread.

[k4zep]

@all

Like I said, people see what they want to see. You see a video of a wheel turning and if it does not turn like you want it too, its a fake. You then find all the reasons to rationalize your opinion. Somebody posted a uTUBE sound analysis saying the Mylow video is uncut. OK this is it. I will be opening a new discussion thread and if anyone goes on that thread with fake shit, they will be erased, end of story. I have had it and so have many many here. Nothing is good enough, so just go somewhere else. Or better still stay here while we leave.

@sterlinga

I need a specific answer regarding the rotor magnet Mylow is using. We know about almost all of his device but the one thing that is missing is KEY. Do I have to repeat this question 50 times. Just take a rotor, lift up the maximum iron possible and weigh it. You want other replications, fine, but the one thing we need to know about the strength on the rotors used by Mylow is not on the table. I know, I know, there is always something else to know, but in my book, there is nothing else to know and/or see. No more videos, no more anything, just get me the pull capacity of his rotors, that's it. Finito. Sorry to be so rough but I just want to stress the fact that this one KEY piece of information will help us more then anything else.

@builders and interested collaborators.

The new thread will be open shortly so I suggest you go there from now on and leave this thread.

Also, please open a new thread as I had instructed before for your own builds and put all your specs in your thread. I will repeat this on the new discussion thread.

Wattsup,

You need to know the field strength of the magnets, not how much it will lift!  Depending on the material, shape, SIZE, surface condition (smooth, ruff, pitted, rusty?), and on and on, that is a non-definitive test!  Is the test at zero gap spacing? 1/8 inch?  1/4 inch?   You need to know the field strength at the point it interacts with the Stator.  IF you call
a magnet manufacturer with the "I want a magnet that will lift XXXX weight" they will go cross eyed on you and probably ship you whatever is kicking around the shop because they know you don't have a clue......It just doesn't work that way!  Again, you must have simple instrumentation and then know what questions to ask to get even remotely in the ball park for what you really want!

This is worrisome in Sterlings reproduction as unless his Rotor magnets are dead on in their field strength and especially their field orientation, his Stator is also correct in strength and orientation precisely,  he also does not have a clue and is just "Hoping" it will work.  In MYLOWs case, a picture is worth a 1000 words but also leaves a 1000 questions unanswered.  This is just a few of the problems we face in any accurate replication.

Ben

[smithandwes]

anyone notice a flicker in the video every gew seconds?

[plengo]

Queue is honest enough to say his doesn't run either.  His also will not enter the gate without assistance and in the end stops which is what everyone I know and have observed does except MYLOWS.  I would say (please forgive me) you are excellent at "circular" logic..............ahhhhh.....that felt good.

Ben

BTW, Queue, great work and nice video. I loved the music too!

Fausto.

[Omnibus]

@k4zep,

The funny thing is that what @plengo shows mitigates the problem you and I agreed upon. @plengo demonstrated unsuspected internal accelerations and follow-up decelerations when the rotor is making full turns which match the internal accelerations and decelerations in @queue's motor within his clusters of magnets. One may speculate that in @plengo's case some kind of superposition of the @queue's phenomenon takes place, some sort of a quasi-resonance. Turns out what you and I noticed has in fact a finer structure observed by @plengo. That should be studied further. It's interesting what ceased these 11hour and 27hour runs. If the rotor stopped naturally once at the 11th hour while in the other instance at the 27th hour it could be that in the latter case the quasi-resonance had been more favorable than in the former case. The least favorable being in the last video (where the clustering of the magnets also is quite different from that in the 11 and 27hour run, I guess). I wonder could there be any connection with Finsrud's observed variation in lengths of time during which his contraptions works. In my discussion with him it was suggested that wear and tear of the track takes place (at a different extent) and that's the reason for the difference in working times. Now here, after @plengo's demonstration, suddenly pops up another candidate explanation. Of course, all these speculations make sense provided there's no foul play on Mylow's part which I have no reason at this point to assume not to be the case.