Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Omnibus]

@plengo,

You may see here http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.msg168260#msg168260 that I noted the deceleration after Mylow starts to speak even earlier than your debunking video. Also, on couple of occasions later I noted that this indicates a real problem in Mylow's presentation. And indeed, this is the problem and not the multiple accelerations and decelerations you demonstrate which only show a fine structure in the rpm-time curve. The fine structure in the rpm-time curve may have a favorable interpretation unlike what you provide based on your video.. In this respect @LightRider has done a marvelous job.whereby aside from the interesting fine structure on can clearly see flywheel-type deceleration after Mylow begins to speak. This was regarding the last video. The data shown by @LightRider regarding the rest of the videos are ambiguous and the conclusions based on these data are even less clear let alone proving hoax. As I said, the really disturbing set of data is the graph shown by @LightRider of the last Mylow's video. This deceleration wouldn't be worrisome only under one circumstance, namely, if the rotor had started to run from standstill which we have no evidence of.

[Omnibus]

Maybe some of you are not aware of this following document so I'm reposting it here with a link to the original:

HJ Magnetic Motor Blueprints Wont Work as Drawn
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/Blueprints/hard_replicate/index.html

AND

Blueprints for Howard Johnson's Permanent Magnetic Motor:
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/Blueprints/index.html



               HJ Magnetic Motor Blueprints Wont Work as Drawn

     Hector D Perez Torres Claims to have replicated the device but says
      that it did not work very long because the magnet strength decayed
        rapidly.  Says device is difficult and expensive to build, and
       buying the special design magnets will put you on a watch list.

[deleted]

   His crude demos stopped after a few minutes, I say it was a miracle we
   got it working for 3 days (no load) then it just died (depleted).
   Similar problem with VTA units.  Even being ac magnet vibration got
   depleted with time ....

Are you quoting the above (I deleted the unnecessary for convenience) as a proof that Howard Johnson motor was never reproduced? Your own quote shows quite the contrary, that it has been reproduced. Show me 3min of operation, as the quote says, not even 3 days of operation, as the quote also says, turning without external energy input, when started from standstill, and then try to tell me it isn't OU. Don't worry about the degaussing.

[lostcauses10x]

"Don't worry about the degaussing."
WHAT PART OF IT TAKES ENERGY TO MAGNETIZE do you not get???

[CLaNZeR]

You lot not bored yet 

Next one is lining up

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7134.msg168917#msg168917

Please be gentle till we see the video

[plengo]

Thank you Ominbus for the last explanation.

Side note: I claim it is a hoax not because only the video but the lack of doubtful evidence plus the video/sound. The group of all the stories, chats and videos to me are not alone sufficient to claim validity while also does not exclude real validity either but makes the case very weak in my opinion so far. Just for the record (some people are confusing my claims with something else).

I think those videos that Mylow presented (which I have everyone of them, including the H18 definitions) can be created using all sort of mechanisms (unfortunately) and he (Mylow) refused simply to present a clear view of his motor while he had and still probably has all the power in the world to do it right to so eliminate very reasonable doubt.

I really like the direction this thread is taking now. A much more scientific approach over the existing data so that we all can conclude and correct each other based on the DATA. Faith alone only necessary to fuel the interest but the data is the guidance and we all should literally learn from it (including me).

I totally agree that the acceleration/deceleration only is not enough to debunk the claim but in itself is not helping either, I think the contrary taking in consideration the WHOLE evidence gathered. Now, I disagree on the possible interpretation of this acc/dec because my personal theory (which I already described before).

I really wish this motor is the real think but again, we all must look at the data very carefully because IF we conclude things in the future we will be measured also by our "good" standard of analysis or "bad" standard.

I can conclude so much on the little data given (specially in this case surround by almost unbelievable stories such as the MIBs) and NO ONE has gone there and seen the motor closely neither taken pictures and seen it running except Mylow and his brother.

Again, I am the first to help in paying for the air plane ticket for someone to go there and get this motor documented as soon as possible unlike so many here that wants only to debunk this story. I want the thruth!

Fausto.