Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[nyctuber]

Yes he did indeed. Not trying to hijack this thread but Tommy's stuff is truly open and it's working. Imagine having a bank of batteries and a magic back emf converter producing much more power output than input powering a DC moor turning a 10KW generator! Imagine having a system like this at home and getting rid of your utility company! Now, isn't that exciting.

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chrisC

Nice find thanks for posting it. I don't know much about building that stuff but I suppose I could learn

[chrisC]

Nice find thanks for posting it. I don't know much about building that stuff but I suppose I could learn

Actually it's not that difficult. We'll I'm a EE myself and it's making a lot of sense although there needs to be verification on the measurement of the amperage. But looking at the details of how he was able to power devices like 2HP compressors, table saw, drills (all together) running off the generator is REAL!  Anyway, follow those many videos and I don't want others to miss Mylow's thread. I've myself given up on MyLow unless he proved otherwise.
Even if MyLow's motor turns, he's never going to power your house. I'll rather follow Tom's thread.

I'm also thrilled my hometown team. the San Jose Sharks beat Anaheim Ducks in OT!

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chrisC

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Well I managed to get YouTube working by putting a special button on my Firefox Bookmark Toolbar that I have to click each time I get the error message. At least I can see videos while I figure out what the hell happened.

OK, I saw your last three videos.

This is the most difficult thing for anyone to do a disclosure and rely on others to replicate it to show it is real. It is very difficult to gauge from our own tests especially if we do not get the immediate results warranted. Just imagine if you came out with a device disclosure and no one could replicate it. Of course people will say it is fake, but you would know better.

So let's all dispense with such talk and get down to brass tax. I have some questions for you and maybe with your answers, we can get some closer pinning down of what is or is not happening on your build.

1) I noticed on your video "New disk part 4 7x7 + 1x6Rotor" that the stator is placed much higher then Mylows. Mylows is very close to the turning disk.

2) I am wondering about your center base compared to Mylows. Not shown in Mylow dimensions, the base center shaft that has the bearing says 2" but his lowest base piece is wider, say about 3". Now if you have a 17.5" wheel that is weighted with rotors, standing on a 3" center base, and the wheel has some certain magnetic exertions from the stator/rotor play, would the wheel have a tendency to push up and down slightly. What I am saying is if Mylows base was slimmer then yours, he would have more play in the wheel and be exposed to more wobbling effect then your wheel. If the wheel can wobble slightly, maybe this is giving an effect to keep the stator/rotor out of the sticky. Like the sticky comes, the wheel tilts a bit, when the wheel tilts back to where is was, this helps break the sticky. Just something to pay attention too.

3) Before you put the stator on the bridge to do your tests, have you just taken the stator in your hands to manual work it over the rotors to see if there were other angles that could work better. Have you used other magnets types and/or magnet/steel configurations as a stator.

4) Are there any metallic objects near your wheel that could cause the rotor fields all around the circle to get attracted and hence cause additional drag. There should be no metal near that wheel.

5) I saw your wind down video "New disk part 3" with the RPM meter showing how long it takes to slow down. If I remember correctly, Mylows longest shown run time was about 3 minutes with his stator placed up close to the rotors. Is this video doing the same since we cannot see the stator placement? If not, would you say by placing the stator closer to the rotors, the wind down time would be much shorter then what we see on your video. This is a very important question.

6) Is it possible for you to try and find some steel or iron bar lengths that are just long enough to go from one segment last rotor to the next segment first rotor so it can stick to both from the back ends or tops. This could modify and/or weaken the mutual sticky points enough to enable you to bring the stator closer with less sticky effect. Maybe just try with 3 or 4 segments just to see how it turns.

7) Do you have any type of way to add more weight to the wheel in a symmetric fashion, like a center placed steel wheel, that would maybe make up for any discrepancies between the weight of your wheel and Mylows.

8) Since you're near my place, do you need any other magnet types and/or want me to come over one day and we can look at it together.

Thanks for your time and also for your great replication.

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Well I managed to get YouTube working by putting a special button on my Firefox Bookmark Toolbar that I have to click each time I get the error message. At least I can see videos while I figure out what the hell happened.

OK, I saw your last three videos.

This is the most difficult thing for anyone to do a disclosure and rely on others to replicate it to show it is real. It is very difficult to gauge from our own tests especially if we do not get the immediate results warranted. Just imagine if you came out with a device disclosure and no one could replicate it. Of course people will say it is fake, but you would know better.

So let's all dispense with such talk and get down to brass tax. I have some questions for you and maybe with your answers, we can get some closer pinning down of what is or is not happening on your build.

1) I noticed on your video "New disk part 4 7x7 + 1x6Rotor" that the stator is placed much higher then Mylows. Mylows is very close to the turning disk.

i tried the stator in all and many different positions  - usually i end filming what ever seemed to work best or is most pertinent ..

2) I am wondering about your center base compared to Mylows. Not shown in Mylow dimensions, the base center shaft that has the bearing says 2" but his lowest base piece is wider, say about 3". Now if you have a 17.5" wheel that is weighted with rotors, standing on a 3" center base, and the wheel has some certain magnetic exertions from the stator/rotor play, would the wheel have a tendency to push up and down slightly. What I am saying is if Mylows base was slimmer then yours, he would have more play in the wheel and be exposed to more wobbling effect then your wheel. If the wheel can wobble slightly, maybe this is giving an effect to keep the stator/rotor out of the sticky. Like the sticky comes, the wheel tilts a bit, when the wheel tilts back to where is was, this helps break the sticky. Just something to pay attention too.

My bearing shaft is 2 3/4 inch .. there is very little wobble in my disk .. My rotor plate is a bit heavier than his as  my ALI is 1/4 inch thick
his is 3/16 

3) Before you put the stator on the bridge to do your tests, have you just taken the stator in your hands to manual work it over the rotors to see if there were other angles that could work better. Have you used other magnets types and/or magnet/steel configurations as a stator.

i ve tried holding the stator in my hand to see where it feels like it  wants or not to be .. usually i go with what seems to work best.

4) Are there any metallic objects near your wheel that could cause the rotor fields all around the circle to get attracted and hence cause additional drag. There should be no metal near that wheel.

The field from the rotor circle actually extends quite far - i can see that with the compass and making a tour - but to answer your question NO there is no metal object proximate that might be causing interference with the disk..

5) I saw your wind down video "New disk part 3" with the RPM meter showing how long it takes to slow down. If I remember correctly, Mylows longest shown run time was about 3 minutes with his stator placed up close to the rotors. Is this video doing the same since we cannot see the stator placement? If not, would you say by placing the stator closer to the rotors, the wind down time would be much shorter then what we see on your video. This is a very important question.

i can see for sure that my disk has much lower friction to deal with than Mylows does.  It turns easier and longer then his.
I'm not really interested in timing ecarts related to spin down times as what i'm looking for is a state where we can see acceleration. For sure if we see something that looks like that then i agree it would be important to put a metric on the spindown stats.. 

6) Is it possible for you to try and find some steel or iron bar lengths that are just long enough to go from one segment last rotor to the next segment first rotor so it can stick to both from the back ends or tops. This could modify and/or weaken the mutual sticky points enough to enable you to bring the stator closer with less sticky effect. Maybe just try with 3 or 4 segments just to see how it turns.

Some ferrite may or may not modify the field walls between the rotors but i am trying to not loose sight of my objective which is to replicate his working disk. Experimenting outside Mylow's  design  might be useful .. but i am trying to stay on track and not get distracted. 

7) Do you have any type of way to add more weight to the wheel in a symmetric fashion, like a center placed steel wheel, that would maybe make up for any discrepancies between the weight of your wheel and Mylows.

My disk is heavier than Mylows :-)

Since you're near my place, do you need any other magnet types and/or want me to come over one day and we can look at it together.

Thanks for your time and also for your great replication.

If i get something that works and need a witness we could set up a meeting.
i don't have a lab or anything like that and my projects tend to cut into our living space which my wife is tolerant of but i know it bugs her. Someday i may build myself a little lab in the backyard - for now i make do working in my house.

Cheers
Q

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Thanks for your responses.
Did you see this on @sterling's web site.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mylow_magmo/message/621
and this one where Sterling went to Chicago.
http://pesn.com/2009/04/26/9501531_Mylow_being_corralled_by_BlackOps/