Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[TinselKoala]

@Watts:
"I would recommend one other thing here @TK. Forget about why you think it is a fake. Tell me why you would think it is real. Tell me why this device is doing what it does but remove any fakery theories from your explanation. You will then start to see some things that you did not see before and I am sure you will then think of some controlled experiments that support the device. But again, this is a question of intent."

Gladly. Clearly, demanding outside verification is not what you mean. SO:
First, I would accept his cooperation in performing certain control experiments, like removing the stator mount assembly while the device was running and allowing us to analyze the resultant behaviour of the rotor. Simple and easy.
How it behaved would convince me that it was real, if it was. And there are a few others, whose methods of fakery do not intersect, as it were, so all we need is Mylow's genuine cooperation, not what he shows in the latest instructional video.
Second, If It was REAL, how could it be? Well, the hypothesis under test is that the disk is propelled by the magnet interactions somehow, yes? But all evidence that we know about, EXCEPT mylow's wheel, tells us that this is impossible. I know you don't believe in instruments or graphs, but I do, and my instruments and graphs are telling me that no matter how I arrange things, magnets passing magnets ALWAYS results in a loss. So all the evidence I have and know about, except Mylow's motor, is contrary to the hypothesis under test. And there is NO evidence, other than mylow's motor, to support the hypothesis under test. So I, not being a theoretician but only an empiricist, cannot tell you How Mylow's motor could be working, if it is NOT a fake. Sorry. All I can say is that I have repeatable solid evidence for my stance, and the only evidence to the contrary has been given to us by Mylow.
Now, controlled experiments, if conducted properly, should always try to _falsify_ the hypothesis under test, not as you say support it. Look it up if you don't believe me, I think Bobbotov has given an appropriate reference, but there are many others.

[Yucca]

@Watts:
"I would recommend one other thing here @TK. Forget about why you think it is a fake. Tell me why you would think it is real. Tell me why this device is doing what it does but remove any fakery theories from your explanation. You will then start to see some things that you did not see before and I am sure you will then think of some controlled experiments that support the device. But again, this is a question of intent."

Gladly. Clearly, demanding outside verification is not what you mean. SO:
First, I would accept his cooperation in performing certain control experiments, like removing the stator mount assembly while the device was running and allowing us to analyze the resultant behaviour of the rotor. Simple and easy.
How it behaved would convince me that it was real, if it was. And there are a few others, whose methods of fakery do not intersect, as it were, so all we need is Mylow's genuine cooperation, not what he shows in the latest instructional video.
Second, If It was REAL, how could it be? Well, the hypothesis under test is that the disk is propelled by the magnet interactions somehow, yes? But all evidence that we know about, EXCEPT mylow's wheel, tells us that this is impossible. I know you don't believe in instruments or graphs, but I do, and my instruments and graphs are telling me that no matter how I arrange things, magnets passing magnets ALWAYS results in a loss. So all the evidence I have and know about, except Mylow's motor, is contrary to the hypothesis under test. And there is NO evidence, other than mylow's motor, to support the hypothesis under test. So I, not being a theoretician but only an empiricist, cannot tell you How Mylow's motor could be working, if it is NOT a fake. Sorry. All I can say is that I have repeatable solid evidence for my stance, and the only evidence to the contrary has been given to us by Mylow.
Now, controlled experiments, if conducted properly, should always try to _falsify_ the hypothesis under test, not as you say support it. Look it up if you don't believe me, I think Bobbotov has given an appropriate reference, but there are many others.

Great test idea, show it running and then remove the stator. Then again remote wireless control of the drive motor is not impossible using an off the shelf micro RC receiver no bigger than half a pea. I think third party verification is all that would satisfy me.

I will add, those that do not believe in instruments or graphs should probably not frequent discussions of this matter. Scientific discovery is based upon collecting and analysing data gleaned through experiments and basing conjecture upon said data, failure to do so is somewhat of a weakness.

Beleivers owe it to themselves to give a clear explanation of the velocity profile so eloquently provided by Touko.

I'm sorry to say but Mylow appears to be yanking our chains. That's not an entirely bad thing, he has at least caused much thinking about the whole subject.

[Pirate88179]

That bird is cool!  AAAAARRRRRRRR!  I'll have to get me one.  The last one I had ate my eye patch.

Bill

[markdansie]

I ask you to review Mylow's glass table video, then watch this one.


Come on over, M, there's plenty of room on this side of the fence. And we do good work over here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqH_fzTLerk

Hi TK, I ssee Sterling has just released plans for the latest updated Mylow Motor. I sent him you video link and asked if he could do a set for your device as well.
Mark

[TinselKoala]

Great test idea, show it running and then remove the stator. Then again remote wireless control of the drive motor is not impossible using an off the shelf micro RC receiver no bigger than half a pea. I think third party verification is all that would satisfy me.

Right, and I can tell you that the modern 2.4 GHz signal from spreadspectrum RC transmitters has no problem at all penetrating a completely sealed and grounded metal container. (Does anyone really need to ask how I know this?)

@Watts:
"Also your just posted video shows nothing but false comparisons and an oversized base which Mylow did not use at all."

Look, I made that thing out of parts I had on the shelf. If I needed to fool you and bought the stuff on purpose for that effect, it would look IDENTICAL in shape and size of Mylow's stub axle and would run an IDENTICAL disk  to Mylow's for over an hour. The motor, running the big disk at 4 kilos plus, draws under 200 milliamps and the 340 mA-H battery is less than 2x3.5x5 cm, and again, it was one I had lying around, they can be had much smaller nowadays.
And as Yucca pointed out the whole thing can be controlled wirelessly, although I did not use that method. My unit is completely self-contained.

Besides, mine has only three LRFs and Mylow's has 4. So there.