Dissociation of the Water Molecule

[ramset]

Dankie
Its ""demanding wanna LEARN""[OOOHHHH AM I EVER LEARNING]

To quote Poynt99 ""question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path..""

Chet

[CrazyEwok]

Just to throw more spanners in your works...
In the thread started ages ago by IH (and others also) "there was a noticable increase in production "local" to the areas where magnets were attached to the cell". Since magnetic fields are created by electricity moving through a conduit and magnetic fields are not dampened a lot by phyical barriers (only the distance from the magnetic source dampens its strength {according to text books } ) magnetic fields could be contributing/causing your phenomenon (electrodeless electrolysis) this would also be apparent in all your other cells. The only thing is where are the spare electrons coming from??? It has been said that there are lots of "spare" electrons everywhere.
On the topis of magnetic fields explaining this, that would also explain... to hell with it just ask Dankie i'm an annoying lil sod that doesn't really help...

[TheNOP]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1pJEz0YGlQ

Watching Stiffler apparently dissociate water with only one stainless steel electrode is quite intriguing, but more importantly would tend to fall outside the realms of standard everyday electrolysis.

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look and listen more carefully.
the bolt is connected to the sec circuit with a stainless wire too.

[CrazyEwok]

A small exert for from a web resource

What are electromagnetic fields?
Definitions and sources
  Table of contents

Definitions and sources
Summary of health effects
Progress in research
Typical exposure levels at home and in the environment
Current standards
Precautionary approaches
What is EMF - German, Italian & Swedish

Electric fields are created by differences in voltage: the higher the voltage, the stronger will be the resultant field. Magnetic fields are created when electric current flows: the greater the current, the stronger the magnetic field. An electric field will exist even when there is no current flowing. If current does flow, the strength of the magnetic field will vary with power consumption but the electric field strength will be constant.
(Extract from Electromagnetic fields published by the WHO Regional Office for Europe in 1999 (Local authorities, health and environment briefing pamphlet series; 32).

Interested in the part: - "An electric field will exist even when there is no current flowing"

[Farrah Day]

And I thought I could talk!  Sorry Loner... could you repeat that?

Joking apart.... I decided to print it off to mull over later, incase looking at the monitor for that long would melt my eyeballs.

That said, I do like a bloke that speaks his mind!

A lot probably all comes down to the fact that much of science is over-simplified in order to be visualised.  Let's face it, some form of energy surrounds us and everything else within the universe all of the time... and it's just asking to be tapped into.

Just to emphasise this point. Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism involves 6 components to describe the electric and magnetic fields at each 4-dimensional point in space-time, something that we would find impossible to visualise, so there is clearly always more going on than we perceive... or maybe are capable of perceiving!  It seems to me that there really are occasions that we only know of somethings existence through theoretical mathematics. But hey, if things were too easy we'd all be bored out of our minds!

Anyway, just got to go finish the housework... back later.

PS. Nop, you're right, I must have been distracted for the first few seconds of the video as I had not seen the attached ss bolt previously.

Here's a couple of very interesting Stiffler videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy8BJ6nq6Uk&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tIhY_-l0tE&feature=channel_page

Incidentally for anyone that doesn't know - and I didn't - Stiffler was a forum moderator at one time. I found a Stiffler thread on this site of some 268 pages, over 2600 replies and which has been viewed over 140,000 times. However, it seems he was plagued by idiots and low-lives from start to finish, and I guess he eventually decided it wasn't worth the hassle to continue posting here - frankly it's not hard to imagine how he felt!