Isolating electrodes

[wojwrobel]

i have read some of the posts from other forum by Aaron about plates isolating , so i got to work and varnished my plates with regular varnish both sides (THE REAL CAPACITOR DONT HAVE A CONECTION FROM ONE LEG TO ANOTHER!!!!) and the results are amazing i don't have a "fog" in my container, bubells are much bigger and voltage is getting very high up to 1,6kv and up, usually i had 600 -800 volts with my rewired alternator.

so i think that the isolation of the electrodes is very important to get high voltage !!

i haven't notice any heat increase over 10 minutes of work

well my next step is to make this diagram and connect it to my isolated plates
this will get me around 20 kV

so my question is what kind a LIQIUD ISOLATOR should i use to my plates to isolate 20kV ?

cheers from poland

[Room3327]

Woj,
   Just a thought, if you used distilled water in your cell, the distilled water would act as an insulator between plates.

[wojwrobel]

Room3327

i have tried distiled ,but i still conduct water ,

its all about isolating plates , what i have also notice, the bubbles sticking to bottom of my container for a while and then go up, just like they would be attracted to plastic   i use regular clear bucket ... so maybe i should use this delrin isolator as a material for my cell ? i will try that too...

anyway i think high voltage electrolysis is key, and to get HV in your electrodes you have to isolate them with something ... then you get true capacitor (cell), if not you just have regular electrolysis

cheers from poland
 

[Room3327]

Woj,
   I think you are right or at least on the right track, from my experimenting a few months ago I found with my cell, built like a capacitor, that in distilled water the output increases continuously with applied voltage.  The higher the voltage the more gas created.  I built my cell from .012 nonmagnetic stainless steel cut into two strips 24" long X 1.25" wide and wound them together just like a capacitor.  I held .050" clearance between the plates and it worked VERY well, better then most of what I see on the internet at 150 - 200 watts input.  But I never took it past 150 volts input and my plates were not insulated. As soon as I get some time I am going to try insulating the plates and try very high voltage like 40KV and see what I get.

[wojwrobel]

Room3327
thanks for reply

can you tell me what is the mane of epoxy or varnish that can handle 20kv and up ?

maybe some other stuff that you know?

thanks
wojwrobel