One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

[jonnydavro]

Hi.Here is a vid of a test i did with my 6mm Neo sphere motor.I tested single and twin sphere rotors and i think with the addition off a pickup coil to each end of the bifilar so the sphere's are inside,it would generate well.The rpm's are insane too and if i up the voltage and add a lubricant, i might here a sonic boom lol.Regards jonny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHKcWHn3GnE

[brownsville]

@JonnyDavro, great video, been way too busy on a construction project, hope to start a real build asap.

@all - did any of you see this in the JT thread....have you tried it JonnyDavro?

@ All,
Carnot play catch up just yet, got to make this post, then pack for the weekend, then be back on Monday.

I needed a break from here as I wasn't getting satisfaction with the JT work I was doing, sometimes a complete break and fresh ideas are needed, I stumbled onto a couple of things in the other forums and fealt these are what I needed, and lo and behold, some complete surprises.

OK I mentioned I had managed to run my bedini on its own output, this is how I went about it.

If you take just the output from the secondary coil after rectifying it, and place the Pos to power in and Neg to Neg in, it will not work.

The trick is to insert 3 12v batteries (in my case I had 3 long thin gel cells), connect them in series making a total of 36v. My Bedini can put out 40v rectified.

No I took the power from the middle of the 3 batteries (Batt 2) fed the Pos to Pos input and the Neg to Neg input and it kept running.
Next I disconnected the original battery which started and ran the bedini.

How does this happen, well I think the small amount of energy cripples itself, (it sees it as a short circuit) but, if the full output voltage is applied right across a much bigger battery, then if you take from the center battery, it seems to be "sampling" the energy.
When the Transistor turns off, the pulse hits the battery, the battery supplies just a small er energy to feed back to the Bedini circuit.

There seems to be a rebound wave of energy that is created, much like a spring effect at the battery. Difficult to explain this.

OK now how to make a JT run on its own energy?

Do the same as I did with the Bedini, but use 3 "extra" Batteries on the output, make sure you bridge it first.

I think (I haven't tried this) if you get 3 identical capacitors (electrolytics) and connect them in series, then connect them the same as the 3 batteries, this should also do the same thing.


Here's a few circuits  have fun.

jim

Got to get another couple of batteries.

Brownsville

[jonnydavro]

Hi.I have been investigating the negative amp draw i was getting in the video on page 15 with my twin magnet rotor and it works with a single magnet rotor too and i think i am understanding what might be going on.This is what i think.
First of the voltage is coming from the coil and the return path is via the transistor's emitter.I know this as i placed a forward facing diode after the coil's primary winding connecting to the collector and it blocked the negative pulse.
I also put a diode in reverse accross(white stripe towards the collector) the transistor and the negetive pulse still occurs so the induced voltage is comming out of the coil,through the run battery and back to the coil via the transistors emmitter.
This is what i think may be happening.When i place the magnet sharply in front of the coil,nearly touching,the magnet is inducing a high voltage in both power and trigger coils.The transistor turns on but as the voltage induced in the primary is high,the voltage in the trigger coil is high due to transformer action and not just a spike so the transistor stays on and this slows the magnet but as the magnet has a lot of kenetic energy it is still inducing voltages in the coils and this voltage goes around,through the run battery,through the transistor's emmitter and back to the coil.I am not sure what the reverse breakdown voltage is of the TIP 3055 and 2N2222 as these are two i have used but it goes through a diode placed accross the transistor as well.
This is a real negative current as i have placed two diodes after the ampmeter.One forward and an LED backwards.When the meter goes negative,the LED lights.
One other thing.My bifilar coil is 1:1 , 26swg for both trigger and power winding of equal lengh.
I have designed a circuit to show and capture this negative pulse which i enclose.It may be better to use low voltage drop diodes but i just used what i had and it works.Switch S1 just turns the motor off and the cap still charges as the rotor spins down so i think this should work with most coils and the important thing is the strong cylinder magnet and high speed for inducing the voltage.
I think the interesting thing about all this is that there is a return path through the battery and back to the coil through the transistors emmiter.
@Brownsville.That is very interesting.I will look into Jims discovery.Many thanks jonny.

[PYRODIN123321]

Haha...anybody seen this?

http://fascinations.com/unique-toys-gifts/top-secret.htm

opened up one of these all it has is a transistor and the coil and the batt.

[Pirate88179]

Pyrodin:

Nice find!!!  Any idea how old this device is?  I mean, is it a brand new product or one that has been around a bit?  Hmmmm, maybe someone saw Jonny's device and said "Hey, I can make money with that!!!"

Very interesting.  But, they still can't do what Jonny and some others have done, ha ha.

Thanks for posting this.

Bill