The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[BEP]

One thing I'm wondering is if an increase in neutral currents reflects as increased draw from the three-phase source? Or are the neutral currents basically *free" because of the harmonics? Also you mention that they were DC with a heavy AC component? That is interesting, getting DC from three-phase AC...

Neutral current would indicate an unbalanced load or unmatched generators. You would have the same on a single phase system say.. 120/240 or 220/380. If loads on both sides were even and the same reactance there would be little or no neutral current. I never equated neutral current to harmonics. I'm not sure that would be a reason for neutral current.
As far as DC on neutral it would only happen on extreme cases where the wave shapes were very different. In effect it seemed to relocate zero with respect from one generator to another. The DC was never stable but the change was slow enough to see on an analog meter.

The fact that the harmonics are not mathematically consistent reminds me of the musical scale, which doesn't follow the mathematical logarithmic progression of harmonics. According to this source here: http://redwood.berkeley.edu/bruno/psc129/handouts/logs-and-music/logs-and-music.html to get the frequency of a note that is one-half step higher, you multiply the first note's frequency by 1.06. I think that we need to take the musical scale into account when determining the harmonics we want to use and your example is proof of that.

I'm not much into music but I believe notes are not simplex frequencies but combinations of simplex frequencies. I have been able to create a tritone with two frequencies and the amplitude is always greate than the sum of the two. This  is reproducable on the java web applets also.

Harmonics and the other results of combinations never appear to be as simple as one thinks. I know you must consider the propagation speed when determining where a harmonic will appear. Speed can change with physical transmition media or field density. This is much less a problem when working with radio communications and becomes extremely important below VLF.

So the 1.06 figure is probably not usable when dealing with EMF. I suspect it will be higher but less than 2 between the fundamental and first harmonic. The number I usually use below VLF with longitudinal waves is 1.28. Hertzian would be about 1.85.

[giantleap]

@ IS
The TPU that SM starts with a magnet is an SS unit! You will never be able to start a tube TPU with small magnets swiped across a coil! For a start you need to generate enough power to  heat up the heaters as well as generate enough potential difference to draw the electrons to the anode of the tube. This just is not going to happen. I suggest if you are really going down the tube route that you read up on the theory of opperation first. Watch out tube circuits contain lethal voltages.

God bless,

Tim.

[innovation_station]

at tim

a question you know this because you tryed it??

i dont think you have so how could you ever say that???

and just 1 more thing

all sm's rings that you see in the videos are ss!!!!

unless you think you have seen a tube model some where

i think that you should start ro read some old books to understand how tubes work

ist 

here is a link read the books http://triodetubes.com/content/view/5/6/

i think between here at ou and this site all that is required to build many diffrent styles of tpu's  is here

so i think if you all want a working tpu then start reading

this thing wont build its self but im sure it can almost run on its self  if it totaly ran on its own out put then i dont think it could be controlled properly

it must have a battery so we can control it!! i just think ss has been a big waste of time the real truth seekers will start where we have been told to start!!!

study tubes and how they work!!  then find 1 of the regenerative osc circuits that uses only low voltage to start to operate and just 1 pluse or 1 pinch to to produce extra current the pluse could come from a small permenant mag being swiped past coil that is all that is needed to start some of the tube oscolators  and next look for  an osc  that only requires a 6v or a 12 v heater to be warmed  to start operation of osc  so then well


just read the darn books !!!!!

is

IN THE BEGINING STEVEN MARKS SAID LET THERE BE LIGHT ........................... AND THERE WAS LIGHT.........
IN THE BEGINING STEVEN STARTED WITH TUBES 
NEAR THE END                       --------IST------------   SAYS   ~~~~~~~TUBE TIME YET??~~~~~~~

[giantleap]

@IS

tubes eh!!

tim nice  wrie up but

i think a circuit that runs on its self is required using tubes and starts with a small small charge from a magnet
in some of the videos you see sm move the mag a tiny bit  in 2 places why?

well to turn on the osclators and buld up the power  each side  1 is the + and 1 is the  - he flips the magnets right all we have to do to activate the tpu is pinch the tube by that i mean send a pluse of oppsit polarity to the tube 1 for each tube 1 + and 1 - from there i think the osclator will add to its self until runaway  or if the proper cutoffs are installed it will quit climbing at the right level for the cutoffs

is

You think that it's possible to self power a tube circuit just be flicking a magnet against the TPU? What about the 300ma heater current per tube? and the delay while the tubes warm up. What about say 150 Volts minimum HT. And all from two small magnets and no batteries. I suggest before you try, you had better see if you can meet the minimum supply requirements for the heaters and HT first using only a couple of magnets.

good luck.

Regards,

Tim.

[turbo]

you see ,that is exactly what i mean.
the guy just doesn't get it.