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Overunity Machines Forum



The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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Jdo300

Quote from: z_p_e on June 27, 2006, 08:37:34 AM
I believe there may be some ferromagnetic material inside the device, otherwise his little magnet would not stick to the side of the coils. He can be seen doing this on the coil he eventually cuts open. It appears at least that the magnet sticks. I could be wrong however.

Hi Darren,

I never saw him place a magnet on the device in that video, but assuming that you are right about it sticking to the coils, that would make sense if he is using ferromagnetic iron wire for the collector coils.

God Bless,
Jason O

Liberty

Quote from: gn0stik on June 27, 2006, 10:38:28 AM
Why would Steven give us hardware diagrams if he doesn't know how it works?

Seriously, He's made several of these, and he's guiding us down the road of discovery, on the principles of discovery that led him to make them. The only hints we have to go on, have come from him, and here we are all working our asses off trying to decypher his notes to us, and we don't think he knows how it works? You can't have it both ways, either he does know how it works and we're not wasting our time, or he doesn't know, and we're all idiots. Which is it? He can't be both our teacher, and ignorant of the technology. If that were the case he'd be teaching in the public school system, with all the rest of the ignorant teachers. Let's not go down that road again.

I for one think he's probably the only one (outside UEC) that does know how it works.

As for the camera anomaly. That is interesting, remember however that this was done in the late 80's with magnetic tape media. It could have been stored badly, or is just aged at the time of conversion to digital. It's hard to say if that is caused by device, but it does look like RF interference as I have seen it in the past.

Regards,
Gn0stik.



Quote from Gn0stic:  "You can't have it both ways, either he does know how it works and we're not wasting our time, or he doesn't know, and we're all idiots. Which is it? He can't be both our teacher, and ignorant of the technology."


I agree with you Gn0stic.

Or another possiblity is that he is somewhat aware of how it works, but wants to protect his device and is leading everyone to a technical 'close miss' so it sounds on track but is really a wild goose chase filled with mysteries that will never end (like the 'kicks').  The end result is dead ends and wasted time and everyone gives up resulting in a protected device that nobody can recreate, while admiring the inventor because he was able to do the impossible that no one else can seem to understand.  Already there are contradictions in the recent notes and what is said on the early videos...  As someone already said that the notes say forget the coils, and the video says:  no circuitry, no battery, just knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other, the coils are very important...

I think that the early videos hold the most promise, especially the tips that Steven tells us in the videos. (Almost daring you to figure out the puzzle).  Steven was not near as careful in hiding the device secrets in the early videos as he was in later devices that are all taped up, centering up on performance and size of the device, rather than technical aspects of the internals of the device.  Steven doesn't act like he was the original inventor (in my opinion), but more like someone who ran across a method from someone else (perhaps the patent on the aerial generator?), on how to make a conversion device using iron wire with magnets and the earth's magnetic field,  which was not well known to anyone.  I think that Steven used this type of knowledge and combined it with his knowledge of transformers to come up with his 'TPU'.  I believe that all of the devices are based on the same method, and the device is really very simple and less complicated than we are being led to believe.  But that is just my opinion. 
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor

gn0stik

Yeah, your right Tao, we seem to have gotten ahead of ourselves again. We need to be measuring kicks. Has anyone had any luck yet?

bob.diroto

Quote from: z_p_e on June 27, 2006, 08:37:34 AM
I believe there may be some ferromagnetic material inside the device, otherwise his little magnet would not stick to the side of the coils. He can be seen doing this on the coil he eventually cuts open. It appears at least that the magnet sticks. I could be wrong however.

I'm not bothering to try and get a non battery version going. I don't think it can be done without knowing the exact frequencies. SM obviously had access to an FFT scope (spectrum analyser). I'm seriously thinking of getting a oscilloscope board for my PC which has an FFT facility included. The main issue being I don't want to fry my PC.

Don't know about anybody else but with 500V pulses going into my coils any neo magnets within 3 inches of my coils start to flip around, as would be expected.

I believe the vertical control coils (kick tubes) are made of iron wire onto which the neo magnet sticks.


bob.diroto

Quote from: tao on June 27, 2006, 10:17:25 PM
See tao's diagram in this link

I believe the coil tao has marked "Control Wiring Vertically Wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils" are made of uninsulated iron wire, to form a kick collector tube. As per Tesla who said metal objects of different sizes collected radiant energy dependant on their shape, and mass related to the mass of the disruptive discharge circuit. Therefore I'm guessing this tube needs to be an as yet unknown, specific diameter and height in order to collect the radiant kick energy.

I haven't as yet been able to 'collect' any form of kick energy on an iron tube which surrounds a wire which has rapid pulses applied to it...Anyone else had any luck in observing a measurable voltage, or current spike, on applying a high voltage pulse across a wire ?

The iron tube sings to whatever frequency of pulses you put into the horizontal coil. But this is just a magnetic field effect, as the tube is physically vibrated in the magnetic field of the horizontal coil, and is to be totally expected.

I was thinking maybe the physical vibration of the iron coil interacted with the permanent magnet which was placed on the side of the iron coil, would also be physically vibrating, thereby creating some vibrating permanent magnet effect.

e.g. The iron coil physically vibrates, causing the permanent magnet to vibrate, which induces further current into coil, causing more vibrations etc. etc. Which when linked to frequency of magnetism the alledged 174.9kHz would cause some unexpected energy to appear.

What are your thoughts on this theory ?

Mannix do you have anymore unpublished info. from Steven Mark ?