The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[supersam]

dutchy,

i think what is happening, "i think", is that  because of the fact that the magnetic field is being produced by current flowing around a loop there are some interesting things that are going to happen.  what is happening on the inside of the loop is fairly obvious, to some extent.  ther is obviously going to be a concentration of the magnetic field because of the space limitation of the diameter of the loop.  what is happening on the outside?

it is my theory that the magnetic field generated by the current traveling around the loop, on the outside does no travel to far before it breaks down to .5 gause and then is reflected back by the earths magnetic field.   then it gets bunched back up in the center of the loop or should i say loops.

just a thought, lol
sam

ps: tired of shuttinup shuttinup

[dutchy1966]

dutchy,

i think what is happening, "i think", is that  because of the fact that the magnetic field is being produced by current flowing around a loop there are some interesting things that are going to happen.  what is happening on the inside of the loop is fairly obvious, to some extent.  ther is obviously going to be a concentration of the magnetic field because of the space limitation of the diameter of the loop.  what is happening on the outside?

Sam,

There won't be much of a flux outside of the coil/loop. In every toroid shaped core (even aircore) 99% of the flux get 'trapped' inside the core and just gets dragged around in circles. This just standard toroid coil behaviour. As SM said we are looking for unconventional behaviour and as i posted before with the use of radiant energy.

regards Dutchy

[supersam]

starcruiser,

i guess two control loops will work.  if you are going to run them out of phase, what do you mean?  are you thinking of turning say five winds on one side and six on the other?  i think if you do this you will have a transformer or a rectifier, just depends on which way you run your current.  lots to think about.

lol
sam

[supersam]

dutchy,

it is my understandin and correct me if i'm wrong, but, the earths magnetic field is a form of rdiant energy.  and magnetic forces travel in a circular motion until an equal and opposite effect cause them to react.  what i was saying is theat the earths magnetic field is being touched and causing the action for the magnetic field to return to the inside of the toroid, where they are definately being bunched in a raio of 99 to 1.  traveling in to seperate vectors because of the fact that there are two currents traveling in different directions with obviously different frequencies.

lol
sam

[starcruiser]

Marco,

In order to calculate the frequency we need the period or time of one cycle (peak to peak or crossover to crossover). From the screen shot I canot see a complete cycle of the waveform and I am not sure of the scale of the grid nor the setting you used on the scope when capturing this so I cannot figure it out.

If you have this you can use the formula of frequency= 1/t , where t= time in seconds. the t variable uses the horizontal time setting of the scope in conjucntion with the grid on the scope, i.e. 20us per div, etc.. this would mean 20 micro seconds per grid. If you have a delta function on the scope you can measure this by highlighting the complete cycle of the waveform and this will tell you either the frequency directly or it will tell you the duration of the cycle, then you can use the formula to figure out the frequency of the waveform.

I hope I was clear on this, if not let me know and I will see if I can explain it further.

supersam,

I was thinking the control coils would be of the same number of turns but wound opposite to one another, in other words while you may wind one from left to right, looping the wire from the bottom over the top, the other would be from right to left starting the same way thus you have north facing north and south facing south. Thus the signals would be unity in amplitude but the phase angle would need to be off to prevent cancellation of the signals.

Just a thought that kind of coincides with giantkillers idea or counter rotating fields at similar or differing frequencies. I also goes along with what Stan Dayo was talking about with the ship he saw at area 51 (I think he said).

I really believe the torrid (rotating magnetic fields) is the answer to several questions relating to power generation as well as drive systems for space craft. Look at the various designs out there for motors and power systems that are brushing on the very same concept but from slightly different angles. pardon the pun.

regards,

Carl