The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[supersam]

jacob,
where in the hell did you come up with that?  what in the hell did you think that made it pertinant?

sam

[giantkiller]

Your coil picture is exactly what I have on my coil board. Your diagram is hardwired and the compliment coil pairs do not show their polarity. If your driving at 90 phase shift then all circuits need to be represented. Anyway. My coil board lets me change coils and/or lets me jumper any configuraton. Thanks for documenting one possible configuration for me. I am creating a plug -n- play coil breadboarding system. I put the coil mount in my avatar to spur others on. It also serves at part of the documentation process. The coil drivers portion will also be replacable to drive any coil changes.
I mention this in this fashion because those of us that have coil avatars displayed know the amount of work it takes to get to this state. If a coil is wrong one can feel defeated, and maybe lack of funds. My coils could be wrong. But the coil drive logic seems more sound than my coil parameters. I will follow through knowing that when the time comes for me to switch out my coil, the dynamics of all of our efforts will produce a workable solution. Boy, doesn't sound like a load of crap. The coil makers know it is tiring. My little one took 1 hour. My second one, with 4 segments, took four hours. And I know 2 coils are not enough. It is a labor of love. I bought 8 tip41 current drive transistors. Wrong. Now I have to get 8 MOSFETS, thanks Marcos. I have buz11s but they aren't as hi voltage as the irf840s. Don't know what I was thinking. The IRFs have the current bypass diodes on board. Regular TIPs don't.
Once  again the schematic is on page 211 and the coil open configuration is on page 157. This current attachment links both together logically.
And hey, be still and be at peace with one another.

[giantkiller]

Well that was goofy...
Visio 2k doesn't produce jpgs sometimes.

[gn0stik]

jacob,
where in the hell did you come up with that?  what in the hell did you think that made it pertinant?

sam

He's actually got a pretty decent Idea for rotating the fields. How much of what you post is pertinent?

the thing is, there are some opposing ideas on how this thing works. I suggest jacob build his ideas and report back, and someone get working on what Tao, and I have worked on since early in this thread.

Also, just so you know jacob, the magnetic fields tao talked about would NOT be perpendicular to the collector. It would be parallel to it, if the control wiring were perpendicular to the collector as magnetic fields expand off of a wire radially at right angles, which would line them up parallel with an inner coil that is run perpendicular to the wire being excited.

Another note. The standing waves you talked about Tao. If the upper and lower coil were wired in parallel, and the middle one was wired in series, or separate to these, it would create TWO of the standing waves you talked about not one. One between the upper and middle, and one between the lower and middle.

Also, if they counter-rotated, the ramp up effect would be much more pronounced, and detectable by a compass. If they rotated in the same direction it would happen so fast that it would be undetectable by a compass.

In addition to the two frequencies, I think there should be two different switching speeds as well. If the two fields rotated at the same speed you would have a collision point of both fields at the same spot on the coil all the time.
However if the switching speed was slightly different, as well as the frequencies, the collision point would advance just a tad at every revolution of both fields, As magnetic fields of the same polarity collide they are enhance at the point of collision(kick anyone?), giving you a net unidirectional rotation of the magnetic field, that is greater than the upper and lower fields alone could be.. Perpendicular to the collector. This would increase in speed as power increased until the unit reached it's full capacity. At which point it would likely no longer be detectable by a compass. The net unidirectional effect would in fact make it impotent when turned upside down. This would also give you the gyroscopic effect you were talking about.

However do not get side tracked by the inductance... It only accounts for a small portion of the power, which would be fed back to the controls.

The only problem I have with your theory, is that I've never heard of a loop antenna being made of a heavy gauge multi-strand wire. Bifilar maybe, but something as thick as car audio wire? Nope. And I defenitely see like 3 or 4 turns of some heavy gauge wire in the cutaway video.. Now, perhaps this would be ideal at such a close range to the emitters, as they are electrically larger, especially after inductance begins, and hence could be more efficient.

Regards, Rich.

[jacob]

Oops, got it wrong again. The corrected drawing of the torroidal architecture is still different in phase representation of the aligned winding architecture. Now this is it: