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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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orionjf

Quote from: ctglabs on October 09, 2006, 04:50:04 AM

I have just tried with 100 ohms load and 10 ohms load.  The effect remains.  Is this load low enough for you guys?


Regards,

Dave.

Good news, Dave!!!!!

I suggest you try to see the relationship between output power increments vs. input power (changes?) in order to model the device completely. That is, use two different load resistors, measure power out, and see the current in the input for each one (then calculate power in the input). It is good a current sensor as Stefan said, using a resistor (low, 1 to 10 ohm) just in series between generator ground output and your input and measure voltage. If a power increment in the output does not have any change in the input, then we have the best result. If there is a relationship and it is linear (K), it would be good if k with superimposed is >1 (consider power relationship, not voltages).
Good luck !!!

mikestocks2006

Quote from: gn0stik on October 09, 2006, 01:40:40 AM
Quote from: mikestocks2006 on October 08, 2006, 04:30:19 PM
Ok I have a very simple question.

Let's take a closed end toroid e.g. 1000 turns 10 cm radius with a base harmonic for 3.5 MHz

Mark the turn at 12 o'clock as 0
and let's say the turn at 3:00 o'clock as 250 (going clock wise)

Next splice a wire on the 0 turn and a wire at the 250 turn

Next apply a jolt of potential to those 2 wires

Do we have 2 sets of currents going through the toroid?
One current from turn 0 to turn 250 clock wise ( through consecutive  turns 0, 1,2, ? 248,249,250 for a total of 250 turns and ? of the toroid)?

The other current from turn 0 to turn 250 counter clock wise (through consecutive  turns 0, 999, 998,?252,251,250 for a total of 750 turns or  the other ? of the toroid)?

Do we have 2 standing waves rushing through the toroid at opposite rotations at different frequencies and effectively amplifying each other when the amplitudes are in sync?

Shouldn?t there be splice location where max amplification at max freq results?

Possibly at exact opposites?, or some harmonic multiple divisor of 1000 (in the example above 1000 turns were used)
I keep thinking closed toroid since in that video the simplest design about 5" dia (the one he placed on the glass table) there seemed to be no outside power sources driving the toroid
Or maybe use a pm to kick start the proccess intead of an outside VA source.

Any insights will be appreciated. Thx


Well, judging by what SM has said, it's possible to do what you are describing, but, by other descriptions of his layout this is probably not what he's doing, at least in the larger device. The counter rotating fields could easily be accomplished in two separate sets of controls rather than the same wire.

By splicing, do you mean simply soldering a lead at the 250 point?  Or closing it completely, and soldering two on? At any rate, there's really no way to know exactly what would happen without actually doing it. Basically, correct me if I'm wrong, but you would just get a hot toroid, as you've just made a big heating element if it's completely closed. You have to have output somewhere, and if you have two input and two out put, you might as well just make a bifilar toroidal xformer and feed it different signals in opposite directions. I may be missing something here, or simply dind't understand you, however.

:)
Rich

Yes I meant soldering a wire at 0 turn and another wire at 250 turn. The toroid is closed it self also.
Thanks for the reply.
:)

orionjf

Quote from: -[marco]- on October 09, 2006, 08:48:04 AM
:)hi

as we are to switch two 50hz transformers in series what would the output frequency be?
close to the 100 hz lightning?
anybody knows? its because of the experiment i dont know to put them series or paralell.
in paralell would trigger the overload switch i think but in the series strange things can happen.
greets marco.

Hi marco,

Consider all in phase, when you ?add? the same signal, freq is always the same. You are adding if you connect in series (voltages) or parallel (currents). Maths: Acoswt + Acoswt = 2Acoswt

When you ?multiply? the same signal by itself, there are two outputs: a DC component and a signal with double freq. Maths: Acoswt * Acoswt = (1/2)A^2 + (1/2)(A^2)cos2wt
Your are multiplying if one signal varies the gain of a circuit that ?carries? the other signal (?beating? freqs, in the RF language).
(All in phase).

It will be good to think about what happen if you multiply and add (collect) in a closed loop: probably you have a bigger and  bigger DC component with a higher and higher freq ripple (notice, higher freq, is not equivalent to higher amplitude). Even, it has sense the Stefan?s idea about Barkhausen effect: translate a broadband spectrum of low power signals and to add them at the same point. The problem is: How to build it?

Regards

gn0stik

Dave, that's what I meant, feed t3 with two in phase sine sources to replace t1 and t2.

This is all very interesting, and you may have stumbled upon something here, but the problem I have with it, is, where are the kicks? Have we stopped looking for them? If this is the true operation of SMs TPU, then why all the talk about kicks? Why did we look for them for so long. I guess we would be using one signal from the earth, and one man made one, and relying on chance superposition to create kicks?

If that's the case, why not just do this instead. It's much more controllable.

Also, although your set up was odd, and it could be posited that science would have over looked it because they would see no point in making a circuit like this; If you simplify it by removing T1, and T2, and Pumping T3 with two sine waves, and they still add, then science probably WOULD have stumbled upon this by now. See what I mean?

I'm not trying to rain on the parade, I just think we really need to perform due diligence here.

Also, have we thought about closing the loop? Or wiring the output of this to another similar device? Feeding T1 and T2 of another setup with T3 of your current device, and seeing if it continues to rise? If so, throw a fuse between the two, and close the loop, so it can't runaway. (I know it's not quite that simple)

My mind is kind of reeling at the moment, between being giddy, and skeptical, and bummed out that we are not seeing any SM type phenomena. No earth's magnetic field, no kicks, etc.

Also at some point we'll have to try this with toroidal xformers.

Regards,
Rich.

Mr_Video

Quote from: ctglabs on October 09, 2006, 11:28:57 AM
Have just purchased the 5U4G Valve, just need rest of the circuit diagram!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5U4G-BEH-Electro-Harmonix-Tubes-Valves_W0QQitemZ180029391178QQihZ008QQcategoryZ39997QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Dave.

here ya go, Dave :)

you probably didn't need to go out and buy a 5U4 though
you could "simulate" a 5U4 with 2 diodes & a resistor .

but it shouldn't really matter, either way is good :)
good luck !