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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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hartiberlin

Quote from: ctglabs on October 09, 2006, 06:39:33 PM
Quote from: hartiberlin on October 09, 2006, 06:17:52 PM
@Dave,
maybe you can just drive the 2 x 12 Volts transformer with the same noise generator
and just see, if the 240 Volts output cancels all out ?
There might be still some output, when you use noise as the source and drive the core
with it into saturation,so the input should at least be 0.5 Watts or so...

Many thanks.

Here you go...



Many thanks, but what circuit diagram was used for the 3 scope shots ?
You can just describe it.
What voltage levels did you feed the transformers with ?
12 Volts peek to peek or lower ?
Many thanks Dave.
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energyman8

Quote from: -[marco]- on October 09, 2006, 06:09:08 PM
Quote from: ctglabs on October 09, 2006, 05:38:26 PM
Guys, see this quote from SM.  What it seems to me he is saying is that the earths field produces lorentz force on these electrons when they first move, so they are helped along by this.  This means they have more energy in total that was given by the supply?

If you break down what he's saying, I cannot see what else he can mean?

"The inrush of current through the filament interacts with the earth's magnetic field to produce a small kick.
SMALL KICK. Those words mean a great deal. It PROVES that there is an interaction between the magnetic field of the earth and simple electrons running through wires. It may be a small influence but it is actual OVER UNITY. I have spent several years of my life thinking about that.
Scientists tell us that over unity is impossible. They say that you cannot get more out of something then you put into it.  Then I think about that wire with the small kick when first turned on. . .   There in lies the secret my friend."


Does anyone interpret this differently or see another meaning?


Regards,

Dave.

thats exactly what i mean....

you have in your hands an "object" wich is moving slowly forward.
but..... you think its standing still because you are also moving slowly forward........
two in the same direction "looks" like nothing.
now if you change the direction of one of the two then you would see the effect.
its like hitting the brakes and turning the wheel and accellerating again in a diffrent direction.
so as you grab it again its going to break stop and speedup again until it moving along with you again.

sorry if you dont know what i mean.

marco


Hi Marco and Dave et. All

I am following you guys here and I would like to offer up an analogy of what you guys are stating above.  Let me know if we are on the same wavelength here. You know when you get up out of your seat in an airplane and you get "pushed" back down? That is what I am imagining.

Regards

Joe
Are you part of the problem or part of the solution? ;D

gn0stik

Quote from: Kosh on October 09, 2006, 11:14:53 PM
Quote from: ctglabs on October 09, 2006, 06:01:49 PM
Also the device would need to be a certain way up for the lorentz force to act in the right direction, so turning upside down could stop it like Darren says.

Think of it as a positive feedback due to Earth's magnetic field when the TPU is at the correct orientation and a negative feedback when not.

Maybe this positive feedback is what we need to generate and maintain some form of oscillation.


I had a phone conversation with Peter Lindemann a while back and we got to talking about some of Gray and Tesla's work. We spoke about the exact same thing SM described when he threw the switch on the dynamos. He eplained to me that what Gray found was that when you "pop" a circuit with a burst of power, via a spark gap, or some other instantaneous method voltage rises to compensate for the lack of a current path. He said that there is actually an equivalence between voltage and current at aproximately 10,000 to One, volts to amps. And that potential absolutely has to have a path once introduced to a wire. If it doesn't it will rise to compensate, how much will it rise? Depends on the resistance of the wire itself. He said it's all explained in either "the secrets of cold war technology" by Vasilatos, or "on light and other high frequency phenomena" by Tesla. I can't remember which one. At any rate, that would explain the kick quite nicely.

What happens when the equivalence is met? A current path is again created, and hence a magnetic field. Protons in the copper try desperately to align with the local magnetic field, as this new current flows. The local magnetic field being the earths. However, due to spin they are like little gyroscopes and cannot align perfectly right away, they have to sort of wobble towards it, this is called precession. Protonic precession causes eddy currents in metals in a close proximity (think metal detectors). Now what metals do we have in close proximity to this process? Why, The collector coils.

So now we have gyroscopic force, heat, due to the eddy currents, and power out of nowhere.

Of course this all hinges on whether Lindemann was right, and hence Tesla, or Vassilatos.

The diagram I have posted back on whatever page that was, is designed specifically with these things in mind. As well as other things that SM/Mannix described, such as the spinning up effect, and the turbine forces. It's bifilar because of the descriptions of the "mystery" poster, which SM called essentially correct. (why we haven't tested that setup yet, I have no idea... but I cannot throw stones as I'm not a builder.)

At any rate, make of this as you wish. But if I had equipment, this is what I'd be testing.

mrd10

Hi Dave,

Have a great break, and I want to say, good work, your experimenting, and like i said before, its more than it's worth, the rewards can be surreal.
Fantatstic.

I've been reading these posts daily, keeping upto date on whats happening and saving whats relevant.

Cheers,

Dom   ;)