The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[dutchy1966]

Hi Dave,

Yes, i have read "the secret of cold electricity" by Peter Lindemann a few times now and ther must be some truth in it because there are too many ppl claiming results with this form of energy. It is not something that someone just makes up.....

Assuming Radiant Energy:

For along time I couldn't think of a way to be able to quickly enough interrupt the current flow. BUT... an earlier post by someone put me on the right track i think. Instead of trying to interrupt the current after you fire it into a coil (and your control circuit will be far too late to interrupt it in time), we have to send off the interupter pulse (through a transistor) FIRST!! Then in the time it takes for the transistor to cut off the circuit we setup the power in the coil. We should be able to time it really well then by adjust the time between the cut off pulse to the transistor and the power being setup in the coil.
I hope you get what I mean.....
What ya think?

Dutchy

[starcruiser]

Hi Kosh,
well done your experiment.

How high in amplitude are the pulses in the blue coil ?
Just a few millivolts or in the Volts region ?

Why do you get multiple spikes ?
Is this the Mark effect?

Maybe you need some more windings in
the input coils ? Otherwise you waste too much
input energy, cause the resistance is too low !


Good luck !

Regards, Stefan.

Stephan,

In Kosh's experiement he is ringing the large coil. I have performed the same experiement with a large collector coil and a control coil pulsing it with a 200khz 50% duty cycle squarewave and got the similar results.

I believe the signal is reflecting  from the end of the wire and bouncing back and forth until it dies off (diminishing in strength). If Kosh adjusts the horizontal time base he can see just one pulse on his scope (with resultant reflections) then use his delta function on the scope to determine the period of the first cycle thus giving him the coils resonant frequency (at least a close idea of it). In my experiements I checked the first cycle of the signal and found that with a 200khz input signal the period of the first cycel of the induced induced pulse in the collector is around 3Mhz. Since I had wound my coil using 16Ga lamp cord (stranded) I had a ready made Bilfialr coil so I connected it in series and retested, the resultant frequency halved from the first.

With these results I was wondering about SM's coils and their resonant frequency, I came up with 2 possibilities, the first is the coil must be an antenna (loop) and the wavelength of the antenna must be fractional (1/8 wave or so), I need to work that out yet. Thus the collector will need to be tuned to the desired freqency with the addition of a capacitor to increase the output. The second is that SM's coils are tuned to the 3Mhz band and he is tapping the ambient pulses from Lightining strikes which exist in that frequency band to beat against.

in either case I am thinking that the collector coil is needing a capacitor to create a tuned LC tank circuit to re-enforce the signal pulses and increase its strength.

I will post some pictures of the scope results later this weekend to show the similar results to Kosh.

These results plus my idea of a simple crystal radio for the signal generation (starting signal source) using a magnet to act as a simple amplifier may provide the key to a regenerative signal source.

I came to this conclusion using the following:

     1) Center smal torrid coil with a capacitor using a non conductive core

     2) small coil means higher frequency reception than 5khz (possibly)

     3) a small germanium diode as a detector to create positive pulses

     4) Feedback loop from the large torrid coil via magnetic induction to the smaller one in the center

     5) The radio theory re: loop antennas and being directional and they can be part of the input tank circuit to the crystal receiver (we can use the center winding of the large torrid as the loop)

     6) The output of the receiver is linked back to the large torrid via a control coil (this is the speaker for the receiver module)

     7) Even if the receiver is picking up static/noise the pulses are usable to drive the large coil arrangement (short duration pulses)

      SM mentioned that the worst case scenario of lots of frequencies will produce better results (the output of the receiver will have noise)

     9) The crystal receiver will have a small DC component in its output which can setup a small magnetic field in the control coil to help directionalize the signal rotation (this is a natural by product of the crystal receiver design)

    10) The magnetic field from the magnet will increase the effective size of the receivers pickup/tuning coil (antenna theory again).

These are the facts as I see them so far, I may be off base here but I am thinking that we are looking at a simple regenerative receiver.

I am building a crystal receiver today to test some of these assumptions and goign to try the following:

   1) wind a small torrid aircore coil for the input tank circuit with a large value cap to form the LC tank

   2) connect a germainium diode with the appropriate bypass caps (,001 & .1 uf)

   3) check signal reception/levels with and without a ceramic magnet near the tank circuit

   4) if the above shows promise connect it to my existing coil to see if it has an affect

Hopefully I can get this experiement completed this weekend if family obligations do not distract.

again this is my theory and maynot hold water but I am thinking this is a valid direction.


Regards,

Carl

[starcruiser]

Dave,

I am thinking the 90 degree coupling of the control versus the collectors is required to convert the pulses to an AC/sinewave. This seems to be the effect the 90 degree coupling has, just see the scope shots from Kosh. I think this will setup the active antenna (magnetic) field required to enhance the effective size of the loop antenna in the collector coil(s).

Added:

I was also thinking that the 90 degree coupling provides a "one way street" if you like since sinewaves cannot come back thru the coupling, my experiements show that the sinewave doesn't couple as well as a squarewave.

Hi Carl,

I was just thinking about what you said just now about beating against the lightening signal.

If we have a battery and a bulb and to this we also add a solar panel.  So the panel is not charging the battery, but just giving its extra free bit to help power the bulb.  Here we have COP>1, but Effeciency <100%.

If we have a battery powering an oscillator in to a transformer and try to feed 14volts back to a 12v battery, we can do this but the current drops.  We loose power.  But if we add a small solar panel to help power the oscillator, we can make up the small difference that we normally loose.  Lets say we have a 99% effecient oscillator and transformer so when we feed it back we only loose 1%, perhaps we can get that 1% back with the solar panel and thing will charge itself with only a small panel!  Again the effeciency is <100% because the transformer will loose some as heat and the panel only converts 15% of the light that falls on it, but the COP is>1.

Can this then also be done by feeding back some power you already have but just adding that little extra received from a lightening strike in to the feedback loop?!

Still, no 90 degree coupling though 



Dave.

Dave I think this is similar to my assumption/theory regarding the coupling and tuned loop antennas. what do you think?


Regards,

Carl

[dutchy1966]

But we have to think about this, current doesnt travel down a pipe like water, making its way to the end.  Although crude, its more like a tube of marbles that is already filled up (a wire).  We then push one marble in the end, so one must immediatly come out the other end, they do not make their way down.  The moment it flows at one end, it is flowing at the other, how then can you cut it off before it reaches the other end?

But with a spark gap, its different, the air in the spark gap its not build in to the circuit, its open, so you could cut it off while the spark is in mid air, before it reaches the other side of the gap.  Hence teslas interupted spark gap.

Dave.

All true....are we sure there isn't a way to create a radiant energy burst without a spark gap? If there isn't doesn't that rule out this principle for the TPU?
On the other hand, if we look at the GRAY circuit he DOES spend some electrons to make the thing work. He just puts some of the gain back to the battery. So if we basically would replace the gray tube with a mosfet and spend some electrons in the process it wouldn't be such a problem, would it?
When you were testing with the transistors what voltage did you use? You need a very high DC voltage to accomplish the radiant burst!

Dutchy

[starcruiser]

Here are a few links to some information that speaks to theory regarding antennas and powerless reception.

regarding tuning coils
http://www.crystalradio.net/professorcoyle/index.shtml

Crystal radio circuits
http://www.techlib.com/electronics/crystal.html

Regarding antennas
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/special/swlant.html

I have a few more but need to locate them.

Regards,

Carl