The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[gn0stik]

There are other factors to consider as well.
Resistance is the act of a conductor throwing off electrons due to inconsistencies in the atomic lattice. Right?
Well if the Iron wire is chosen for it's resistance and long relax time, as opposed to its conductance and long relax time. What would you have? You'd have electrons "jumping to the larger wire" wouldn't you? This would be in combination with the inductance in the adjacent coils.

Of particular interest for this scenario are Iron, due to the high resistance (electrons jumping ship)and long relax time.

My understanding is that conductance is reciprocal to resistance and that relaxation time is inversely proportional to conductance. Therefore I don't think it's possible to have high conductance and long relaxation times as higher conductance would mean shorter relaxation times.

Uhh, yep, your right. Heh. I got the E -n wrong on the chart.  My bad. However you quoted the wrong scenario. You should have quoted the low resistance high conductivity scenario.

I was kind of leaning toward the first scenario anyway, as a soft iron wire with higher resistance and longer relax time would would serve a trifecta of purposes. First of all by defenition soft iron wire distorts local standing magnetic lines of flux. With the control wires being made of soft iron(baling) wire, the earths magnetic lines of flux would be pulled into the coils by the control wire, this effect would be small, but it would be there. Perhaps enough for the tuned coils to act on them better. Second, The resistance would cause the electrons to jump ship due to the microscopic imperfections in it's surface, this only happens more and more as it heats up. Thirdly the resistance would also hinder back emf, and cause those electrons to jump the wire as well, as the current stops. And of course theres the magnetic component of the electricity that would cause inductance in adjacent coils.

Steven said that it should be the other way around and hence, this statement:
So, based on those things, lets look at the Mark device. Lets say Steven put one big stout cable(collector wires) around or in the rings,and all around these he had many many windings(control wires). Now, if Steven put into those many many windings(control wires, which are around the stout cable) a current and before the current could get to the end of the wire, he stopped it's flow abruptly, then perpendicular radiations (the KICKS), the same Tesla observed, would appear and spread from these many many windings(control wires), this would cause Tesla'a copper charging effect, which would hit the stout cable(collector wires). Now, if Steven wired the coils right and stopped the discharge of the current through the coils he would be able to extract a lot of extra energy from the tap points on the coils. This is basically how Tesla's magnifying transmitter works.

Ok so are you saying the stout cable is the toroidally wound multistrand wire bundled together? and around that there are the many many control wires(soft iron wire, or the goldish colored wire in your bryce diagram), because this is pretty much how SM described it, in my understanding,  Or the other way around? I'm pretty sure I understand you correctly. In fact I'm pretty sure we have the arrangement nailed.

We still have a lot to figure out though. Kicks, frequencies, control circuits. I think ZPE had a pretty good thing going with that circuit he posted, and Bill Beaty's stuff is interesting too. But it's just a sign of how far we have yet to go.

This could cost a small fortune in wire alone. 

[bob.diroto]

Tao and all,

I want to check my understanding of what tao has just said concerning Tesla stuff.
So summarising in my own words:

The spark gap allowed the voltage to rise in the supplying capacitor. Only when it had risen to a certain level would a spark jump the spark gap. In this case the spark gap acts as a way of creating an almost instantaneous rise time of voltage in the wire to which the spark gap jumped to ? And that tesla then wanted to blow out this spark gap before the current had a chance to run to the end of the primary ? Therefore preventing current reversals and therefore leading to the effect of kicks, radiant energy etc.

Votes please for Steven Mark TPU:

Iron wire should be:
1. Insulated ?
2. No insulation ?

Iron wire coil (not collector) should be:
A. Closely wound turns that don't quite touch.
B. Very closely wound turns because using insulation.
C. Widely spaced turns.

Length of wire used in the coil should be:
X. Doesn't matter.
Y. As short as possible.
Z. As long as possible.

My vote is for 1 and B and Z which would allow for the most compact coil OR if no insulation is a requirement for transfer of the kick energy then I vote for 2 and C and Z.

I'm assumimg 'Z' in both cases based on Tao's observations on Bedini's devices.

If the iron wire is magnetically saturated does anyone know if this increases the relaxation time ?

Can a magnetic field be directed down the end of a iron wire (as per liberty wave guide idea) ? e.g. If I place North of a permanent magnet against the end of an iron wire does this propagate a north field all the way down the wire, even if the wire is coiled ? I guess I'm going to have to try this one out. A coil of magnetic field, an interesting concept. I wonder how this would interact with a high potential applied to the same coil.

What if we used fine iron filings in a tube, as part of the kick circuit ? This would have an increase in resistance but would it be useful ?

[bob.diroto]

Just had another idea on switching potential to a wire.

Take a long length of insulated iron wire. Have two high speed mosfets (SCRs) attached to each end of the iron wire. At the same time as switching one mosfet on you switch the other mosfet so as to disconnect the ground.

You are therefore utilising the small intrinsic differences in switch times to get a very,very small pulse width which would be much, much faster than trying to turn one mosfet on and off with the other end of the iron wire tied to ground.

I don't know whether mosfets will take this sort of abuse though.

[Esa Maunu]

There is also mumetal wires available.Mumetal consists of 80% Ni  and 20% Fe,usually available as uninsulated.
Interesting property with mumetal is it`s very high permeability, up to 325.000

http://www.lessemf.com/mag-shld.html

Esa

[bob.diroto]

This is a slight variation on the previous theme.

Same long pice of iron wire, again with mosfets (scr) one on each end. This time both mosfets are normally tied to ground. You use the same signal to turn both mosfets (scrs) on at the same time feeding the high voltage to both sides of the iron wire at the same time. The slight difference in turn on time, and the difference in turn on time could be in the order of  few pico seconds, would mean one end goes to high volts potential slightly before the other.

The nice thing about this is that you don't have to know which mosfet switches faster, as long as there is a small difference, it should work. This setup also has the nice feature that you get a pico second pulse as you switch both mosfets on AND when you switch both mosfets off.