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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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Liberty

It is interesting to read about the different devices and how they work.

It appears to me that Tesla and Ed Gray use the spark gap to collect a "moment of excess power" via the spark gap effect and collect it in another device that stores or uses the power.

The SM device would seem to tap into the magnetic field of the earth by using another magnet with iron wire to create a mask field and collects the difference between the fields (about 5khz).  I believe this to be the 'conversion process' that SM talks about in his video.

I think all of these devices are collecting what is termed, 'radiant energy'.  The same energy that Dr. Moray found.  I think that these people have found different methods to collect power from the same source. 

I would favor the SM device overall, because it collects this power on a constant basis, like Dr. Moray's device did.  The SM device and the aerial generator patent have a similar concept of collecting this energy.
Liberty

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bob.diroto

QuoteYou truely can't just take Gray's schematic from Peter and just build it, there is much PRIOR knowledge you must possess to know how to HANDLE the radiant.

As the video points out item 36 in the gray diagram is not just the 'load'.

Gray demonstrated light bulbs glowing in water using the 'cold' electricity', this implies the conversion tube that captures radiant electricity does not 'convert' or 'generate' electrons.

Gray does something in item 36 to convert back to electrons. What is this process ?
Is it just a capacitor ?

Now to what SM is doing:

If the Ether is all around us as an oscillating medium then if you can pulse the ether at right angles to the natural oscillation of the ether then this in theory would create a vortex. If the Ether pulses up-down (i.e. along the line of gravity) then you would need to pulse the Ether left-right. Once you have a vortex of Ether, I imagine all sorts of electromagnetic effects could be captured. This would be the turbine effect. In fact if the either just flowed in one direction ( in the direction of gravity) then a left right oscillation would still create a swirling/turbine effect.

The permanent magnet field must come about because of some interaction with the Ether. The permanent magnet is there to enhance certain effects with the Ether. Perhaps it creates a distortion or stabilises the flow of Ether, or compresses the Ether. Either way the magnet is essential to distorted/concentrate the Ether in a way that the device can then use. Remove the magnet and the Ether is no longer distorted and the voltage starts to drop. Obviously the distortion to the Ether is not understood. So there are times where the natural flow of the Ether is correct for operation of the device WITHOUT THE MAGNET. The device SM cut up wouldn't turn off/on even when he removed the magnet, which is why he cut it up!.

A 'kick' obviously interacts with the Ether. If you generate kicks in two devices on opposite sides of the toroids and apply kicks left-right in an oscillating fashion, you will get a swirling. This is what SM meant when he said consider what happens when you have two spherical field than move in two directions.

If you look at SM first devices where the sides of the toroid are open you can clearly see that it is not toroidally wound coils around the whole device. You can however see what look like 4 coils. On two of these coils he places the magnets. These will be the kick coils operating in left-right oscillations and the other two coils will be pick up coils that pick up the magnetic field generated by swirling Ether.

From this design, you analyse what frequencies of left-right generate the most swirling. Now you can generate a more efficient design because instead of left-right you can pulse in a circle as long as it still uphold the same left-right frequency. And instead of two coils picking up only a small part of the rotating magnetic field, you have a complete toroid picking up the magnetic field. Instead of having two kick coils as you now know the frequency you can utilise beat frequencies from two interacting coils, combined with the correct size of coil, to create 'kicks' going in a circle.

The final design is a very clever hybrid where he utilises exactly the correct frequencies so that he can constructively interfere the frequencies in a transformer to create shorter pulses with higher and higher rise times and fall times and also higher amplitude. The coils are fed with these rectified pulses, in exactly the right place to create the rotation at the correct frequency. IT ALSO TOTALLY HIDES THE METHOD OF OPERATING FROM ELECTRIC CIRCUIT CHARACTERISTICS TO PRECISE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS.

But here is the great part. SM is not COLLECTING the radiant energy to feed into an external circuit as per gray but is only feeding back the collected pulses to a capacitor to provide power for his pulsing unit.

He only requires DC pulses of short enough duration, fast rise, fast fall time, and sufficiently high voltage so that the wire the pulse is applied to generates a large enough effect to pulse the Ether BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LARGE ENOUGH TO GENERATE RADIANT ENERGY, just large enough to pulse the Ether. Iron wire, because of relaxation time, enhances the effect.

The key is not to generate radiant energy from the very first pulse. Just big enough to get the swirling going. Once the swirling is going, you can intercept a magnetic field, get traditional current and feed some of this current back to the battery of the pulse generating circuit. I wouldn't mind betting that the swirling enhances the kick effect which eventually gets large enough to capture radiant electricity and it is this that is fed back into the LC resonant circuit via the small toroidal transformers that we can see in each design.











bob.diroto

Quote from: tao on July 02, 2006, 02:28:22 AM
The NUMBER ONE THING that shows that Steven is AT LEAST using Tesla's/Gray's processes is the FLAME LIKE DISCHARGE that comes out from Steven's wires when he shorts them in the video, that is NOT NORMAL ARCING, only PROPER RADIANT CAN DO THAT.

No. The flame like discharge is a hall mark of very high frequency, high voltage, high current electricity.
It may also be a hall mark of radiant electricity but it is not exclusive to radiant electricity.


Elvis Oswald

Going back to the discussion about wire relaxation time and all that... and I've said this before :)  - It's not got anything to do with stopping the voltage/current/power from getting "all the way down the wire"...   I'm pretty sure it was the fairy tale that mannix posted that started that line of reasoning...  HOWEVER... (with all due respect) Mannix does not know how the device works.  Whatever his theories are... and they might be close to right... but they are still just a guess.
Even so - you shouldn't take a parable so literally.  Especially from a friend of a friend.

Tesla's radiant energy is based on "disruptive discharge" and was based on disrupting the discharge of a spark across a gap.  He was extinguishing the spark.  The whole center was the spark.
So what are we looking at when a spark fires?  A dielectric breakdown caused by an electric field... and THAT translates into TIME.  I bet those numbers look better than relaxation times on wire. :)

Any guesses on what exactly gets isolated when a spark is not allowed to make it to 100 microseconds?

penguin hood

This is an interesting thread, I do not know too about the devices you talk but I have designed and tested a electronic high voltage pulse generador. If can be useful for some purposes I can post all information to be built.

Goals:
Max voltage no limit.
The very short switching time and remain constant no matter the max voltage used.
The pulse duration and active cycle can be controlled exactly. 

Drawbacks:
The component numbers increase lineary with the max voltage.
Very low load current.