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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Grimer

Found it. The device is called the Ventomobil

Project: Ventomobil
"Use the wind to drive against the wind", that's the formula of the InVentus Team. The young design engineers are two of the first researchers developing a mechanically powered wind racer for the Aeolus Race in Den Helder - and we support them in turning their vision into reality.

And there's heaps of YouTube videos illustrating it.
Example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGxnAWVGcNA

Interestingly enough a lot of them seem to be in the Netherlands. Maybe Sjack Abeling has one, eh!

So the fast rotating flywheels are sailing up the gravitational wind and just as the Ventomobil gets its traction from friction with the ground, the flywheels get it from their axles gripping on the toothed track.

It reminds one of that toy one played with as a kid. A cotton bobbin with a thread wound round the small inner diameter. Pull on it and instead of the reel moving towards you, counter intuitively it moves away.
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fletcher

AquariuZ .. try zeroing out the velocities of all the components in the WM egg sims [>properties] - it seems that you might be carrying forward residual velocities [particularly of the roller balls] giving the wheel assembly momentum when it shouldn't have any from a standing start which could be the source of the torque you are finding - just a suggestion !

Grimer

Quote from: Grimer on April 13, 2009, 12:56:51 AM
Found it. The device is called the Ventomobil

Project: Ventomobil
"Use the wind to drive against the wind", that's the formula of the InVentus Team. The young design engineers are two of the first researchers developing a mechanically powered wind racer for the Aeolus Race in Den Helder - and we support them in turning their vision into reality.

And there's heaps of YouTube videos illustrating it.
Example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGxnAWVGcNA

Interestingly enough a lot of them seem to be in the Netherlands. Maybe Sjack Abeling has one, eh!

So the fast rotating flywheels are sailing up the gravitational wind and just as the Ventomobil gets its traction from friction with the ground, the flywheels get it from their axles gripping on the toothed track.

It reminds one of that toy one played with as a kid. A cotton bobbin with a thread wound round the small inner diameter. Pull on it and instead of the reel moving towards you, counter intuitively it moves away.

It seems to me that the mechanical advantage between the flywheel weight and the flywheel axle is an essential feature of the Abeling Gravity Wheel. Any mathematical analysis or simulation will have to build that mechanical advantage in.
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Omnibus

@All,

Does anyone know how to fix the left barrier in @Cherryman's EF2000.wm2d? Seems it's been imported from a dxf file and there are crossing lines at some corners which prevents it to be considered by the program as a polygon which can experience collisions. Is there a way to fix this within WM2D or it has to be done first in AutoCAD?

OK, this can be fixed by using the polygon tool. Move the left block somewhere away from the main construction and start clicking with the polygon tool around the existing contour until you end where you began. In the process you'll see the cursor changing into an X if it's hovering properly over the contour. Of course, special care should be taken to run over the curved part. Once the loop is closed (no pun intended) the polygon appears in color and now the program treats it as a colliding object. Move it back to its proper place on the main drawing and you're done.

Grimer

The rim or the flywheel weight is acting as a vertical axis Ventomobil not the more common horizontal axis  propeller type Ventomobil.    I've seen a video of a vertical axis Ventomobil   in action but I can't find it again. Still, I'm sure members get the idea and realise that if a horizontal axis Ventomobil can drive into the wind, so can a vertical axis Ventomobil.

Of course, because the gravitational wind is blowing vertically downwards a Vertical axis Ventomobil translates into a horizontal axis Gravimobil. ;D

By combining the acceleration due to the gravitational wind downwards on one side and the gravitational wind upwards on the side where the rim acceleration >> gravitational acceleration so that the rim is creating its own negative gravitational wind, it should be possible to calculate the resultant acceleration vector and hence the driving torque on the flywheel. Presumably someone has done these calculations for the Ventomobils.
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