Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[hansvonlieven]

Gents,

Here are the drawings from the patent.
I'll post the rest later, since max attachment size is 250KB.

Main text is in Dutch. I can translate this but it will take some time.
(I am Dutch myself)

Have a look back a bit in this thread. Someone already translated it. Not that there is much in it. It's all bullshit anyway. The guy is a wanker.

Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

@mindsweeper,

I think the topic of MW2D is intrinsic here and it shouldn't be moved elsewhere. For now this is the only possibility to test the ideas we're discussing but we have to know clearly the limitations. Therefore, we need a very clear explanation as to why your device is modeled incorrectly, if that's the case. Of course, I don't doubt your manufacturing and experimental skills but even the most skilled experimenters sometimes overlook things or come upon an interesting fact by sheer luck. That's so typical even when the great minds carry out experiments. So, let's see if someone can come up with a clear explanation as to what's happening with your model. The best would be to have a mathematician specializing in mechanics to write the equations governing the system an prove rigorously that based on classical mechanics what we see isn't possible. That may seem trivial but it isn't unless one is inclined to take for granted that we're done with classical mechanics and there cannot be new findings there.

I did a quick "replication" of your model and you can see, it goes berserk under high speed air resistance, destroying itself. No air resistance seems to calm it down to "normal" behavior. Why is that? (see attached)

[hansvonlieven]

You pay far too much attention to mathematics Omnibus,

The test of a system is experiment, nothing else!

When this is done mathematics can be pulled in to create an analogy to what is happening in the real world.

But that is all it is!

I am not saying mathematics is useless, far from it, but you must bear in mind it is only an explanation of the phenomenon, not the phenomenon itself.

Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

Nobody seems to have noticed another patent, from 2004, which I uploaded earlier. The idea seems practically the same as Abeling's. Here it is again (see attached)

Wonder what will happen if someone calls the guy and asks for a demonstration? Bet you he's gonna be nowhere to be found. It's kinda weird Sjack Abeling isn't so much reclusive (I, for one, spoke personally with him, as I reported here, to no avail).You may recall about a year or two ago there was a discussion here on these matters -- USPTO issuing perpetuum mobile patents which they claim isn't their job to refute. Their understanding is that if the patent is no good it will simply die out and if someone is so much interested in voiding such non-working patents, the only recourse it to go through the court system.

[mindsweeper]

@ Omnibus

That does pick up speed very quickly, I have pondered over this for many months and ended up discounting it due to the many working prototypes I have seen in WM2D. I don't know why the model does what it does but when I originally made the design I wanted to use CF to my advantage and this was the model I came up with.

My modeling capability is not very good and when I say I threw something together I mean that is what I did, if there is something here then it's all open and free for anyone to pick up and run with it as they see fit.

@ Hans

Do you think I should start another thread, perhaps take it over to Besslerwheel ?