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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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spinner

Quote from: AquariuZ on April 06, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
Just gotten off the (mobile) phone with Sjack Abeling, he was calm, very polite and informative.

Where to start:

IT IS REAL
Excellent! Let's all hope it really is...

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He has a partnership with Henkel for the glue techniques and Erik (Engine/Turbines/Generators) has the commission for the generators.
OK, good for the generator firm... I can't understand the Henkel's glue techniques involvement...

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Money is not the real issue, he has core investors.The Patent(s) are handled by a commercial company, and he is confident they will be accepted. The word Perpetuum Mobile or infinity is not used and should not be desired.A basic agreement is made with the Ministry of Economic affairs.
Sounds reasonable & possible...

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It is all exactly as stated. The core of the system is the Dual Leverage System as described. He says it works with an incredible acceleration from stand still and the main engineering issue is the correct way to keep the system from destroying itself, in other words containment via some form of advanced braking system. He said that is what is he spending most of his time on right now.
OK, the "way to keep the system from destroying itself" - this sentence is a total nonsense.
If we're really talking about a gravity(+inertia+CF+other known rotational dynamics forces) wheel , It will absolutely be self-limiting in performance (rpm, torque, all the forces..).
No self destruction... Unless if the thing is made out of a fragile materials, like glass (why would anyone wants to build it from glass???)....

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He was sorry he could not divulge any information yet, but the investors will not allow him to present anything as a stipulation of their providing Venture Capital. He said however that the moment he gets the ok he will start a tour across schools for starters. He mentioned that he would update the site with what he could, but in the short term (weeks) no full disclosure is to be expected.
Sounds fair... If he really has at least a working prototype...

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I do not know if I should laugh or cry because on the one hand after having spoken to him I am convinced he is for real and on the other hand I really fear his invention will be bought & suppressed by a some corporation...

It is too early to tell.

Yes, we'll see.
BTW, thanks for your research, I hope you'll find more about this invention!
"Ex nihilo nihil"

X00013

Hi all, its alot easier for myself to make a quick vid on some tid bits from the news clip rather than type it all out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiDGQJ0ASgw

dutchy1966

Hi X00013,

Have you got an opinion about the round holes in the discs later on in the video? I dont see them in the bit you pointed out....

regards,

Dutchy

AquariuZ

Dutch you are right it is two not three, it was a cover from the side.

I have just send a lenghty SMS to Sjack expressing my concerns and basically stating that I fear that once the concept is out of his hands it will never see the light of day in a commercial environment. Sure, he will be a rich man, but this will not benefit mankind or the environment. However that, if he chooses to go public he will certainly gain more income and fame -not to mention even the possibility of a Nobel Prize- than he ever would in just selling the invention. (The standard Corporate tactic). Furthermore if he publishes under his own name he will get 100% credit, replications can be made worldwide and full implementation of the system will follow shortly after. Just a thought.

Lastly I reminded him of the option of securing all plans with a notary if an unexpected calamity would occur so that at least the plans are secure. I urged him as well to come and have a look here on overunity.com and hopefully provide some updates.

I will not contact or "harass" him again until he contacts me, I gave him my phone number.

AquariuZ

Quote from: spinner on April 06, 2009, 02:46:53 PM
OK, the "way to keep the system from destroying itself" - this sentence is a total nonsense.
If we're really talking about a gravity(+inertia+CF+other known rotational dynamics forces) wheel , It will absolutely be self-limiting in performance (rpm, torque, all the forces..).

In theory it would be limited by the (freefall) speed of the weight i.e. until the speed of the wheel matches the freefall speed of the weights. A large wheel spinning at those speeds? what are we talking here, 30000 Rpm? What do you think will happen to such a wheel? Can it be contained?

This is the issue why there needs to be a failsafe throttling system.