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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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AquariuZ

Quote from: persume on April 11, 2009, 11:16:16 PM
Allright let's make this interesting. I'll bet anyone $2000.00 that this device doesn't work.

Boing fails. wm2d (flimsy) attached...

hansvonlieven

G'day all,

For those of you that are playing around with that inner ramp idea here is probably the most interesting version. It was designed in 1835 in England by Dixon Vallance. Instead of a ramp it features a belt.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

spinner

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After all, as Harvey has pointed out on Fizzx, there's nothing new about deriving energy from gravity. Tides do it all the time. Think of the Bessler Wheel as a human scale tide. It makes it feel more homely.  Wink

Yes, but "we all know where the energy comes from" when observing the natural tide cyclus... How about water wheels "gravitational energy"? Why they don't use this ancient concept on an "ISS", for instance?  :P


Quote from: Grimer on April 10, 2009, 07:57:15 PM
Glue is used in the manufacture of fibreglass composite. If glued composites are good enough for the wings of the A380 I guess they are good enough for a Bessler Wheel, eh!

Bessler used wood, a natural composite. But I've no doubt he would have used fibre glass if he were building his wheel today. Boat builders also used to use natural composite but have now turned to man made composite.

Yes, good points... Fibreglass has many good properties! (I know the stuff because I'm a nautical enthusiast...)

But... (You know about my language problems).... If someone says "glass", I translate it as "glass", not "fibreglass"...
I can even  distinguish a "glue" from a "resin"... So we have a glue/glass and the fibreglass/resin terms...

OK... Building a "proof of a concept" device from wood and stuff is still believable project...

But for a "MW power" producing suitable materials...

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So, Henkel is "officially confirmed" as provider of "gluing" substances for an "Abeling weight power plants"....
Hey, I can buy it....It's quite possible...

Cheers!
"Ex nihilo nihil"

Omnibus

@spinner,

So, you think Henkel are in it just for the profit from their glue business and couldn’t care less that in doing so their name will be inevitably connected with a super controversial project? Interesting.

spinner

Quote from: Omnibus on April 10, 2009, 08:14:12 PM
@spinner,

But that’s what Sjack Abeling claims his device is doing.
...

But you may say again ‘why not?’, if this Dutch institution confirms it has indeed given the permission, the way you said it regarding Henkel. If Henkel’s confirmation isn’t convincing enough to you why should this be? The truth is, nothing can prove the validity of Sjack Abeling’s claim or any other claim for that matter but independent verification by third parties.

Hello, Omnibus!

Yes, I had Abeling statement (device starting from a standstill) in mind...
After I saw other concepts here - K.A.D., and others... (which were certainly not self-starting), I just made a remark...

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If "Henkel Netherlands" is saying that "they're involved in the challenging glue techniques" for the "Abeling Weight power plant", then i can believe that...

At this point, we all don't know much about anything.... Especially the Sj's work. It's (like always) the believe/not believe issue....


My main point was - if the authority, the "commercial...."  (I don't exactly remember the official name of that Netherlands authority) would confirm that they really gave him a permission to build "weight/gravity" power plants all over the Netherland, that would be something else entirely....

...

And, yes, an official third party (trustfull independent verification) confirmation build is all what is needed...

Cheers!
"Ex nihilo nihil"