Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Omnibus · April 21, 2009, 11:30:10 AM

@mondrasek,

That extraneous geometry was removed promptly. I posted a follow-up corrected file. So, that's out.

The decreased error limits cause the run (forget rendering) to be excruciatingly slow. That doesn't correspond to the physical situation. Even worse, around frame 2100, I guess, when the wheel is still moving CCW, that nasty inconsistency error pops up telling you that if you continue some of the restraints will be ignored. That's unacceptable because that ignoring of restraints is what maybe causing the apparent finding of its equilibrium. In the "original" file with less restrictive limits there was no such error. So, I'm not sure how that narrowing of the error limits improves things. This has to be understood better.

As for the initial overlap and the program adding collision forces due to it, that's a legitimate concern which is easy to fix (while retaining the old error limits). I'm running it now again with the old error limits but after fixing the three overlaps. Rendering is very slow and I still don't know the outcome.

EDIT: Also, why should the factors you mention are acting in this case and not in the case with @broli's method of forced trajectory? Elements are of the same size (small) in the @broli method, error limits are the same but the outcome is negative there.

AquariuZ · April 21, 2009, 11:35:55 AM

Quote from: mondrasek on April 21, 2009, 10:03:42 AM
Then changed the Animation Step from .05 to .001 and let it run. I moves CCW a small amount, finds it's equilibrium point, and stops.

Exactly my experience with cleaned up model

AquariuZ · April 21, 2009, 11:37:46 AM

Quote from: Omnibus on April 21, 2009, 07:26:39 AM
@AquariuZ,

Whatever happened to that governmental official? Seems like he went back to sleep on his desk. Didn't they say that by law the answer will be given in two days?

The communication service answered they couldn't answer and that they redirected my question to the ministry directly. They complied, but the ministry does not have to, or can stall.

I am pretty certain he has approval for an experimental setup, but certainly not for mass production.

Omnibus · April 21, 2009, 11:40:11 AM

Quote from: AquariuZ on April 21, 2009, 11:35:55 AM
Exactly my experience with cleaned up model

@AquariuZ,

What cleaned up model? Did you change the error limits? If you did other non-physical things start to happen -- as I already said, non-physically slow motion as well as ignoring constraints. Things are not as straightforward as they seem with this wm2d either way (pro and con).

AquariuZ · April 21, 2009, 11:40:32 AM

Quote from: Omnibus on April 21, 2009, 09:29:53 AM
Well, MiB's are Mylow's specialty. As a MiB free country such as Holland, the only possibility are bureaucrats sleeping on their desks (bureaus), it seems.

It may seem MiB free to you, but ask this question:

Who founded the Bilderberg group?

"You may smile and smile and still be a villain"

There is corruption everywhere you look...