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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Omnibus

@ruggero,

Thanks for your effort but it doesn't works again. When trying to import it into wm2d the same error message appears as the one I posted above. I observed the sketch in SolidEdge 2D by removing everything else but the grooves which are the important part. The sketch appears as a sheet in which holes in the form of the grooves are cut through. Thus, you can't grab each closed line comprising a groove individually, independent of the rest of the grooves, if that makes it clearer. Try to move one of these groves and the entire set of grooves moves. It appears these grooves should be drawn differently. Just a guess.

hansvonlieven

Quote from: Omnibus on April 25, 2009, 07:59:33 PM
Hans,

The rigid joints in your model are again on Optimized. Why?
It worked like this, I saw no reason to change it  ;D

Hans
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Omnibus

Quote from: hansvonlieven on April 25, 2009, 08:22:14 PM
It worked like this, I saw no reason to change it  ;D

Hans

You have used Rigid Joints on Optimize,  Air Resistance Off, Animation Step 0.050s and Integration Error 0.010m. Under these conditions I can show you a sim of a perfectly working perpetuum mobile. Are you going to recognize the reality of such machine if unlike you I show you a working one?

hansvonlieven

That wasn't the idea Omnibus.

It was clear from the outset that such a device could not work. I merely simulated an ideal system to study it's behaviour under differing conditions.This was just the basic simulation which I kept changing as required dependent on what I wanted to have a closer look at. All my simulations start off like this. If it does not even work as an ideal system it has no chance to work in the real world, it cuts out a lot of deadwood if you start off like this.

Hans
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Omnibus

Quote from: hansvonlieven on April 25, 2009, 08:49:43 PM
That wasn't the idea Omnibus.

It was clear from the outset that such a device could not work. I merely simulated an ideal system to study it's behaviour under differing conditions.This was just the basic simulation which I kept changing as required dependent on what I wanted to have a closer look at. All my simulations start off like this. If it does not even work as an ideal system it has no chance to work in the real world, it cuts out a lot of deadwood if you start off like this.

Hans

Well, but I'm telling you that under these conditions it (by 'it' I mean the system that I can show you) does work. Therefore, using your logic, if it works under these conditions, cutting out a lot of deadwood, there's a chance to work in the real world.

However, as I said before, neither of these (pessimistic or optimistic) conclusions, based on such black box approach, is convincing, unless there's a rigorous analytical solution offered or at least if we know exactly what methods are implemented in that simulation program and how it really works.