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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Omnibus

@eisenficker2000,

Would it be possible to draw the wheel in other positions, possibly all positions at small angle increments which would then serve to represent one full rotation?

eisenficker2000

@Omnibus That is no problem, the moment I have the spare time. I am no AutoCAD drawing artist by profession. Making a program in C, or for the older AutoCAD users (like me)  in AutoLISP, is not hard. It just takes up a lot of debugging and time.

I have put eight (half) weights in my tiny scrappy wheel. I had no time to make another 8.
The tendencies of the wheel are then a bit amazing:It is very eager to go counter clockwise because of the tilted ellipsoid ramp. The moment one weight falls out. The wheel moves itself accelerating counterclockwise till all weights have come in the lower quadrant..the equilibrium state of an overbalanced wheel.

As expected the resulting cw forces are too little to overcome all the friction. Helping the wheel and feeling the resistance, shows more tendency to turn counterclockwise then clockwise. The ramp just leaves 3 weights to counteract 5 weights that still have considerable arms.
I have drawn an alternative wheel with alternative geometry, more like Ableings first presentations, but after calculating that design gained, despite its big changes, just 5% of torque.

After my findings I do agree with Hans von Lieven, the patent is one of the many bedtime stories without any reality involved.

Having my roots in the North of the Netherlands, working as an commissioning engineer in the power industry, I do believe Mr. Abeling, here sometimes mistaken for a Frisian but being a Groninger, like German Ostfriesland,  is living his environmental dream.

Even if his consortium could build (a) big enough wheel(s) to give some mentionable power. The cost of  the site would be more then any windmill or solar electric site.

hansvonlieven

The Abeling device is, when all is said and done, a very simple machine by engineering standards. To suggest that people with the proper training in engineering cannot accurately predict how a device of that nature behaves is ludicrous.

Many of us have designed and built far more complex structures that are still running after 20 years or more. Have a look at the technology out there and then tell me engineers don't know what they are talking about and that all physicists are wrong when it comes to simple mechanics.

Simply an idiotic idea.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Alexioco

Yes but I thought Abeling hasnt revealed the full mechanism yet? He talks about weights acting in pairs or something, I'm beginning to become skeptical of him...

Alex
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hansvonlieven

Yes I know, there is always that black box factor that makes it all work. The hallmark of every scam merchant! Perhaps he has found a way to manufacture Cavorite.  ;D

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx