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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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X00013

Ball friction iz ), other than that, it's on like donkry kong  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVwdrrJuJAE

This shit aint easy people!

X00013


Cloxxki

X, you're getting quite competent with that, good work!
Are you are this point experimenting in a specific direction to find OU? I notice you keep the weights in the upper half and use that spinning bar to store energy, acting as the "wheel" perhaps.

With your current similation skills, you could already do what I would like to find out about.
An Abeling like setup, where there is a serious start-up velocity, and weights manage to get back to 12:00 quicker than it took them to to from 12:00 to 6:00. No OU in terms of energy, just a time advantage, always having at least one weight doing (slight) work on the generator turning something connected to the central axle. Never negative work, and at 2 times per revolution 2 weights at work.
Million dollar question would probably be : can the time advantage found by rolling up a short-cut be greater than the amount of work done to the wheel? If so, it seems you'd have an accelerating system.
Imagine, with exaggerated figures : 55% of a weight's "lap time" a weight is going from high to low, always doing a bit (couple % of maximum potential) of work. 45% of the time is spent reaching the top, all on its own momentum. The weight is lapping faster than the wheel, advantage gained only upwards.
I am not sufficiently educated to do the math of this. I have the hunch though, that there much be a way to cheat unity by adjusting time, vertical distance and work outputs to our advantage.
Not slowing down the wheel to reach 12:00 seems logical to me, and offers opputunity to try and beat the wheel to the top. I realize this is not easy as the weight loses speed on the roll up, while the wheel accelerates when under load of the other weight. So, wheel's acceleration should be smaller than the weight's time advantage. Lots of parameters tuned correctly, just MIGHT nett a gain in there somewhere. Not exactly the kind of OU that destroys the device after a few seconds of free operation, but perhaps we should not expect that just yet.