MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

[chrisbis36@yahoo.com]

Funny how ur apparent and completely understandable scepticism is exactly the same feeling lots of forum members had over the OC-MPMM device shown over a year ago, and after Harvey's comments over at Fizzx, are being shared again by some (me not included it that since i have not enough info on it all)

Mylow seems quite gen guy, not terribly articulate, but has on the surface of it, built a superb device that i think merits further investigation- and less taking the micky out of.

Ur last vid- The challenge, was more theatre than science if u dont mind me saying, and u loaded ur 'replication' with so much equipment one could only sigh and dismiss.

I read all ur postings over on Fizzx, and in the early days u seem sincere and curious to explain the WhipMag rig- y so negative now Al/TK?

Come on- use that fantastic kit that u have access to, and make an exact replica of Magnetmotor1's device and show the world what true Scientific Method application can produce.
C

[chrisbis36@yahoo.com]

@ Tinsel Koala/ Al

Looked again, with larger screen and u 'Whats that at 7.71-7.53

I think its the split of the moulding on his large television  base thats in the corner- a piece of the fascia i think.
its got definate curved shape to it.

well spotted tho hawk-eye.

[nyctuber]

Only now, there is danger of the stator mount slipping? But not before?

Once again, what's that near the table leg at 7:51 - 7:53 ??

Want to bet this video disappears soon?

Yes, I could still reproduce what's been shown. Especially if I am allowed to use a placemat, carpets, glass tables with big crossbeams. But they aren't strictly necessary.

It was interesting what you did with the electric motor to show it won't cause  platter rotation immediately, that's something I didn't know. But Mylow definitely had his hands off his device much longer, with no spin at all. Add to that the fact that he took it apart before and after and I don't see how it could possibly be fake. That's not to say a skilled person couldn't fake it if so desired, but Mylow doesn't appear to be that guy.

[TinselKoala]

Funny how ur apparent and completely understandable scepticism is exactly the same feeling lots of forum members had over the OC-MPMM device shown over a year ago, and after Harvey's comments over at Fizzx, are being shared again by some (me not included it that since i have not enough info on it all)

Mylow seems quite gen guy, not terribly articulate, but has on the surface of it, built a superb device that i think merits further investigation- and less taking the micky out of.

Ur last vid- The challenge, was more theatre than science if u dont mind me saying, and u loaded ur 'replication' with so much equipment one could only sigh and dismiss.

I read all ur postings over on Fizzx, and in the early days u seem sincere and curious to explain the WhipMag rig- y so negative now Al/TK?

Come on- use that fantastic kit that u have access to, and make an exact replica of Magnetmotor1's device and show the world what true Scientific Method application can produce.
C

These are fair points and I will address them.
The "OCMPMM" thing comes up a lot. Have you ever seen the movie, "Fight Club"? The situation is something like that. Let's put it this way: You aren't going to see me and "al" in the same room, at the same time.
You may recall that about the time of the "OCMPMM" heyday, an imposter (from Italy, I believe) registered and logged on to this forum using the nick "alsetalokin", and even ripped off a poor-res copy of Al's little Tesla Coil Wireless Power Plant that he used as his icon on FizzX. I think Al got pretty pissed off about that, but never mind. So the "alsetalokin" nick, on this forum, was taken, and in the rudest way.
Now, when I saw the outrageous BS wombat trail that Archer Quinn was leading everyone on, I signed up here and I made him (and everyone else) the same offer: One Thousand American Dollars to the person who showed a running "Sword of God", or any gravity wheel or magnet or combo wheel. But I put a deadline on that one: 3 months AFTER the promised 20th of June date (Archer's birthday.) I've still got the money, needless to say, and not a single person even tried to take it.
What gets me riled up is when these people solicit funds and start profitting from their escapades. I wasn't concerned about MyLOW until Sterling started selling plans for a "working" magnet motor. I wasn't concerned about Archer until he started potty-mouthing off and trying to sell stuff and accepting money.
The only possible similarity between Al's behaviour and device, and MyLOW's, is that they both showed a machine that LOOKED LIKE it was doing something unusual. Other than that, their behaviour has been completely different. Believe me, if Al or anybody else tried to profit from the OCMPMM, I'd be all over it in a heartbeat. (insert winky here)
Oh, and there's also the fact that Al's implementation of OC's basic design idea revealed some solid and replicatable interesting magnet behaviour that nobody expected, and indeed has what is called "face validity" for extracting free energy from the motion of magnets. And this behaviour, let me repeat, has been independently replicated and has shown reduced rundown friction. Correct me if I'm wrong, please...

I've got a pretty darn close replication of the MyLOW platform; I used a different axle and bearing arrangement, and a solid chassis to keep the whole thing together, because stupid me, I thot that the stators would have to _push_ against the rotor to turn it, and I wanted exactly repeatable positioning instead of MyLOW's intuitive subjective methods. But now I see that I will have to duplicate his bearing and mount, because it seems to me that his should be more tippy than it is, and I'd like to investigate this.
Now, it takes me 10 or 15 minutes to set up a new config of rotor magnets, and then at least 10 minutes for a single powered rundown trial with instrumentation. (BTW I have some pretty graphs of rundown RPM vs time already.) And I won't even consider making a conclusion unless I have at least 5 trials in a given config. And I have a day job, and I try to sleep occasionally. Yes, the challenge to MyLOW, while serious, is mostly theater, but the research is real, quantifiable, quantitative, and repeatable. And, so far, as I have said, I have seen no hint, in this type of device, of any net positive thrust. And I have asked for the other replicators to report if they have seen any increased rundown times from any circular arrangement of magnets like this--well, you've seen the responses.

Yes, MyLOW seems sincere. So does Uri Geller. Yes, unlike Uri, MyLOW's device merits further investigation. Especially since it violates CofM, and I can think of a bunch of ways to get extremely rich really fast off of that fact alone, even if it cannot be scaled up.
Too bad...

[chrisC]

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@TK:
I think you're right in doing the replication correctly and backed up with scientific data. We'll be even more excited if you can truly and independently verify MyLow's discovery is no AQ phenomena!

cheers
chrisC