What makes Perpetual wheel attempts not work?

[persume]

So you believe that man knows all there is to know about gravity and magnetism?  There is nothing left unknown about them that, once learned, could be exploited for our benefit?

I agree that there is nothing within the known (by me at least) reactions and effects of gravity and magnetism that leads one to believe that it can be harnessed to do work.  I also understand that no one can explain exactly what gravity and magnetism are and why they act on other bodies instantaneously and without an apparent medium.  Until that is explained, I cannot say that the answer will not allow for manipulation of the physics behind those phenomenon for our advantage.

I, for one, do not believe the physics we have today is completely flawed.  Only that it shows only what we have learned so far.  And there is much yet to be learned.  Ask any physicist exactly what gravity is.  Unless they are only to recite high school level texts, they will tell you that we just do not know (yet).

Where did I say that? I said gravity and magnetism are conservative, that's all.

[mondrasek]

Persume,

Sorry if I assumed too much.  When you said  It is ridiculous and futile to try to attempt to rewrite how forces are to try to explain perpetual motion. it lead me to believe that you thought that any further research was futile.  That there was nothing yet to discover about gravity and magnetism.  I apologize.

Personally, I do not think any new discoveries will necessarily rewrite our understanding of how forces are (though I still think that would be cool as hell).  But I think that there is still the possibility of new discoveries that will amend the current laws and add to them.  And in those new revisions and amendments I hope there will be the possibility that proper engineering will allow for exploitation for our benefit.

Most of all, I just want to know what Bessler did or found.  Any ideas?

M.